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In the months between his election loss on November 5 and the end of 2024, Joe Biden’s administration has sent nearly $4 billion to Ukraine in the form of aid and weapons transfers.
This places the world on a trajectory to full-blown World War III in 2025. I predicted more than a year ago that 2025 would be the year in which a World War III bloodbath breaks out.
Of course, I had no way of knowing that Trump would get elected on a platform of ending the pro-war policies of the Biden regime.
When Trump pulled off his stunning victory, most conservatives I know said they were optimistic that he would pull us back from the brink of nuclear Armageddon with Russia, a scenario that is unthinkable among all rational people everywhere and yet somehow seen as desirable by the death-cult puppets running Washington, London, Ottawa, Paris, Berlin and most of the Western European governments. These Trump voters truly believe that we dodged that bullet. Trump will bring peace.
While I am still hopeful these optimists are correct in their assessment, the pessimist in me says it’s wishful thinking.
The pivotal question for me is this: Is it really just the Biden regime that’s so intent on starting World War III or are the forces pushing us in that direction bigger and more disturbing? More to the point, is it just Biden or is it the Washington Uniparty that wants war with Russia?
America did not vote for war with Russia. That’s why they went for Trump, overwhelmingly, because he said repeatedly that he would end the NATO/Ukraine war with Russia “on day one” of his administration.
Ending the forever wars, along with his promise to shore up the border and deport millions of illegals, is what made Trump so appealing as a populist man of the people and so hated by the globalists and neocons.
But the first sign that Trump was perhaps not a serious anti-globalist was when he opted for Marco Rubio as his secretary of state and Mike Waltz as his national security advisor. Trump nominated another war hawk, New York Congresswoman Elise Stefanik, as ambassador to the United Nations. These are people who have taken millions from the military-industrial complex over the course of their political careers. With folks like Rubio, Waltz and Stefanik whispering in Trump’s ear, I see him as potentially a man of war, not a man of peace.
If I turn out to be right, then Trump was elected under false pretenses and will continue to lead America off of the cliff — the same perilous cliff toward which Biden has been racing for the past four years.
I pray Trump proves me wrong. But he’s not starting off very well.
The president-elect has proposed a peace plan that Moscow has already rejected out of hand. Trump’s leaked plan involved delaying Kiev’s NATO membership for 20 years and installing British and European “peacekeeping” troops in Ukraine.
On Monday, December 30, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov declared Trump’s leaked plan a non-starter. One cannot forget that the whole reason Russian President Vladimir Putin approved the invasion of Ukraine in the first place was because he could not tolerate Ukrainian membership in NATO, which would mean the stationing of Western troops and missile batteries permanently on Russia’s border.
Would the U.S. accept Mexico being in military alliance with Russia and the stationing of Russian troops and missiles on Mexican soil? I think not.
So, let’s hope Trump has a better, more serious peace plan ready to roll out upon taking office. Ukraine should never be allowed into NATO. In fact, NATO, the military arm of the failed US-led world order, should be dissolved. It is no longer a defensive alliance but rather an offensive force used to terrorize and destabilize countries that don’t cooperate with the post-World War II liberal world order defined and enforced by the U.S., U.K. and their allies. These Luciferians not only demand that countries forego so-called fossil fuels, to the detriment of their own taxpaying citizens, but they also demand liberal social policies with regard to abortion and LGBTQ insanity, both of which Russia will not and cannot accept. The Luciferian Western powers want a regime change in Russia in order to neutralize Russia’s vast oil and gas resources as they move forward with their own insane “sustainable” green economic policies. They know their idiotic green agenda will never take root globally if Putin is selling cheap gas to Western Europe, India and China, so Putin must go.
By proposing to place Western troops onto Ukrainian soil, Trump shows a complete lack of understanding of the Russian mindset. This is a country that has been invaded multiple times from the West, most recently by Germany in World War II. Trump could not stick a bigger, more prickly burr in the eye of the Russian bear than to station Western troops on its border and call them “peacekeepers.”
The final reason that the Luciferian globalists in Washington are so hot to start World War III has nothing in particular to do with Russia but has everything to do with America’s own imploding debt crisis. After decades of reckless spending, partytime in Washington is about to end. The dollar is going to implode.
Economist and author Martin Armstrong nailed it when he wrote in a December 30 article on his website:
“These people we have in governments are determined to create World War III because they are in a debt crisis. As Maggie Thatcher said, socialism works until you run out of other people’s money. But we risk the entire collapse of Western society because when you cannot sell the new debt to pay off the old, the default comes. People will be storming the Parliaments of our governments for they have run endless deficits annually to always bribe people for their votes. We are not only running out of other people’s money but rapidly approaching default when we run out of buyers for these endless debts. They need war as the excuse to default and blame it on Putin – not their own fiscal mismanagement since 1945.”
The Netherlands could play the role of provocateur, exploiting the inherent structural weakness of NATO’s Article 5 clause, which says that if one member country gets attacked, all the other member states must come to its aid militarily.
Armstrong writes:
“…but here we also have Ruben Brekelmans, the defense minister of The Netherlands, who just gave Zelensky the approval to use their long-range missiles to kill civilians in Moscow…Brekelmans claims that international law ‘is not limited by distance’ and has deliberately tried to force Russia to attack the Netherlands so he can invoke Article 5. Brekelmans is clearly a traitor to his own people, taking orders from the Neocons and NATO that they need to start World War III before Trump takes office.”
Armstrong points to the Netherlands, but who’s to say that Britain could not just as easily provoke an attack from Russia? The governments of France and Poland have also shown enthusiasm for widening the war. One of these countries will at some point cross Russia’s final red line, wherever that lies, and Russia will be forced to respond with massive force. And what will Trump do then?
Trump also showed he is comfortable with the status quo when he endorsed the continued feckless leadership of House Speaker Mike Johnson.
Johnson, like Mike Waltz and Marco Rubio, is a neocon warmonger indebted to the military-industrial complex.
Maybe it’s all posturing and Trump really does intend to end the decades-long forever-war posture of American foreign policy, going against the advice of his neocon advisors and taking on the war hawks in Congress. But I’m still looking for the first sign that Trump is serious about stamping out the U.S. war party, which is the Uniparty, made up of 98 percent of all Democrats in Congress and about 80 percent of Republicans.
Feel free to disagree with me in the comments below, but the statements and actions I’ve seen from Trump since November 5 do not sound like the man of peace Americans voted for.
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Ha , ha. Anna has already proven herself to be an unrepentant liar who is willing to misquote the Quran in order to demonise Muslims and when somebody like me corrects her and insists on the truth, she wont repent. Instead, she stoops even lower and tries the labelling game where I’m accused of being an antisemite and a liberal who supports child trafficking.
There is no limit to the depths which Anna is willing to stoop.
The problem with a liar is that they lose hold of reality, and get lost and tangled in their own web of lies.
If anybody is reading this I would ask them to go back to the beginning of this conversation and if you have any regard for the truth you will see my views and you will know where I stand.
I will not be wasting any more time correcting an unrepentant liar like Anna since no progress can be made and since my views can be seen in my previous comments, should anybody be interested.
I would just encourage everyone to reject the current of Satanic Zionism which has hijacked Judaism and Christianity, not to mention the American presidency.
I believe that, in time, Trump will order American troops to be sent to Iran.
If I am correct and if you are American then brace yourself once more for the body bags of young American soldiers who’s blood will be sacrificed on the alter of Satan in pursuit of the Zionist agenda.
Armchair debate is all very well but the reality for many American families could be the loss of their loved ones if as I predict that Trump will obeys his Zionist masters and declares war against Iran.
Watch out for false flag events which I believe may be used to foment hatred against Iran in order to justify a war.
And further on we need to be prepared for the revealing of the antichrist ‘man of sin’ who the bible says will reign from Jerusalem. This is being made possible through Zionism and it’s zealous adherents such as the likes of Anna who support Zionism so fervently and who will be judged accordingly.
“President Joe Biden’s administration recently proposed an $8 billion arms sale to Israel. This planned shipment includes missiles, shells, and other munitions and needs approval from House and Senate committees. The move comes just over a fortnight before Biden leaves office”
So more war ahead folks but watch as it’s effects not only drain the American purse but may cost young American lives. The Zionist monster is on the march with the Zionist Christians holding up it’s banner.
It’s interesting that the Jewish people wanted a menorah on the Israeli flag but Rothchild insisted on the ‘hexagram‘.
I rest my case.
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unibokk – “Anna who has a deluded devotion to Zionism and cannot comprehend the real truth about Zionist imperialism and who has no empathy for Palestinian civilians…”
The time has been long overdue to point out the hypocrisy of pro-Palestinian liberals like unibokk who demonize Israel and berate Christians that love and support God’s people. They take the moral high ground, holding up Palestinians as victims while at the same time they are hiding a dark, dirty reality: the selling of innocent young minds to a Satanic ideology. They screech and scream about civilian fatalities in Gaza but stubbornly refuse to acknowledge the genesis of this bloodshed, namely the complicity of the adults in raising their children to become jihadist murderers whose violence triggers retribution and wars like this one.
None of these leftists have the moral courage to speak out about the trafficking of children by Muslim adults who teach their sons and daughters to hate and slaughter unbelievers. They have worshiped at the altar of the political correctness idol for so long that they don’t want to look at the dirt being swept under the rug – that Islam sells its own children body and soul into becoming terrorists. They are totally silent about this abuse.
The left is a huge clique, a mutual admiration club that prides itself in supporting groups that self-advertise as being “oppressed.” In this case, Hamas, Hezbollah, and their major supporter Iran have cleverly reversed the narrative to make Palestinians look like the underdogs. The reality is that it is Jews who are indigenous people given the land of Israel by the Creator and who’ve had parts of their land divided and robbed from them. But liberal shills are too lazy to search out the truth and they don’t want to be ostracized by their like-minded leftists. Most of the international community has bought the lie that Israelis are occupiers and Palestinians native to the land, when the exact opposite is true.
The big lie has generated billions of dollars to antisemitic cesspools like the UN and its assistance programs such as UNRWA, some of whose members participated in the October 7th slaughter of innocent Jews.
Apologists for Islam don’t have the spine or initiative to openly, sincerely challenge the hypocrisy of the international community that remains silent on the trafficking of children to terrorist groups. They’d rather sit on their duffs than pick up the phone or write letters to human rights groups, or personally confront pro-Palestinan protesters about their refusal to see this exploitation. They enable jihadists to perpetuate the cycle of violence in their usury of innocent little human beings as pawns to prosecute their eternal hatred of Jews, Christians, and all whom they consider infidels.
God says very clearly what will happen to people who corrupt innocent minds:
“it would be better for them if a large millstone were hung around their neck and they were thrown into the sea.”
In their uncritical support of Islam and silence on trafficking of children to terrorism, liberals are enabling child abuse, and in their complicity they are tying millstones around their own necks.
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unibokk – “As I’ve said before, I do not hate Jews…”
False. unibokk’s antisemitism has been repeatedly confronted by Leo, me, and other readers who no longer post on this website because they got repelled by his Jew-hatred.
unibokk – “I do hate Zionism…it’s quest to set up a kingdom for Satan’s antichrist , ‘man of sin’….is paving the way for the revealing of the antichrist ‘man of sin’ and the attempted destruction of God’s people…”
His persistent demonization of Israel is dangerous because it reinforces what’s being propagated on social media by Islamic jihad in its hatred of the Jewish state.
Like Hamas, unibokk is relentless in his attacks.
It is not Zionism that has caused “the deaths of both Jews and Muslims” but those who adhere to the Quran’s commands to murder the infidels. Missile launchings, shootings, stabbings, suicide bombings, car rammings and the massacre on October 7th, 2023 in Israel have all been perpetrated by terrorist groups who follow their prophet Mohammed.
Israelis are not seeking to “set up a kingdom for Satan’s antichrist.” Zionism is simply a political movement to help Jews come back to their ancient homeland to escape the millennia of persecution in other countries and have self-rule in their own nation. unibokk has tried to morph this movement into some theological monster by twisting scriptures.
The people who live in Israel are like you and me. They want to live in peace and be left alone, live their lives, raise families, work, play, but they are surrounded by Jew-hating genocidal terrorists, so they’ve been the target of endless attacks and have been fighting existential wars.
It is really insidious and evil of unibokk to attribute some kind of diabolical end-time narrative to a population who are innocent of his accusations. The majority of Israelis have never heard of the antichrist or read the New Testament and last-days literature. Not only that, all the prophetic steps are on God’s timetable. He is on the throne. Moreover, He has a hand in the affairs of man and sets in motion events, using the people He chooses.
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unibokk – “Anna wants to reduce the Lord Jesus Christ to being just another ordinary Jewish man despite Him being conceived of the Holy Spirit and his origin from heaven where it says that the Word BECAME flesh.”
This is not the most sophisticated taqiyya I’ve encountered by a jihad propagandist, but I guess it’s the best unibokk can do, which is to lie about what I said. Here is my direct quote that he has twisted:
Anna – “To reiterate, Jesus is both fully human and fully God. Before His incarnation, He existed eternally with the Father and the Holy Spirit. Three persons in one God. When He took on human flesh, He received the physical DNA of Mary and therefore of King David, who was her ancestor through David’s son Nathan…”
The rest of the comments by unibokk I find chilling because they are a methodical, distorted, hateful characterization of Israelis that you’d expect to hear coming from Tehran’s mouthpiece. I’ll only quote a few:
unibokk – “I have lived in Israel for over ten months and I have seen how every able man and woman is militarily trained and are all required to do service in the military. They are far more adept at killing than the Palestinians as can be seen by the ruthless massacre of women and children in Gaza.… The real terrorists are the Zionists…”
This characterization of Israel and Israeli Jews is very close to what you’d read on Al Jazeera or in the Hamas charter because their anti-Zionist hatred aligns perfectly with his.
Whether consciously or unconsciously, unibokk is pushing Islamic terrorist propaganda. I don’t know at what point his radicalization occurred, but it appears the metamorphosis is complete.
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Hey Anna you have not addressed the lie you told re: Quran 8:12
Anna cannot learn because when her lies / mistakes are pointed out to her she refuses correction. Instead she perpetuates her false narrative in some other way.
She refuses the truth even when it’s spelled out for her.
As I’ve said before, I do not hate Jews and I do not hate Muslims but I do hate Zionism which has caused the deaths of both Jews and Muslims in it’s quest to set up a kingdom for Satan’s antichrist , ‘man of sin’.
We must be aware of the agency and the ultimate agenda which is behind what’s unfolding in Israel and the surrounding region. Only then can we more fully understand the situation and what it is leading to so that we can be prepared for the horrors which will be unleashed on both Jewish and gentile Christians, which I believe will be witnessed by this generation.
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Anna says:
“Likewise, unibokk in his aversion to all things Jewish, has not only alleged that the Jews in Israel are not Jews but neither is Jesus Himself. I’m surprised he hasn’t tried to pull the Khazar rabbit out of his hat, too.”
Here’s what I actually said:
“I can say clearly that Jesus was a complete Jewish man. In fact he was more Jewish than any other as evidenced by his complete fulfilment of the Mosaic Law. But his conception was different to any other Jew.
He had to be without blemish both physically and morally. This required him not being contaminated with Adam’s blood or DNA. It would not have been possible for Jesus to fulfil the law if he was tainted with Adam’s blood or DNA.
Both Joseph and Mary were descended from the tribe of Judah. So, why was Joseph excluded from giving Mary his seed in order for Christ to be conceived, given that Jesus’ lineage would be in Joseph’s tribe?
And why did Jesus say:
Matthew 11:11 “Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist;
We know that Jesus was far greater than John the Baptist. So what differentiated Jesus from John.
That’s right , Jesus was conceived of the Holy Spirit.
The angel clearly said to Joseph
“thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.”
Notice that Joseph’s lineage is mentioned here. Do you know why?
Because the lineage of the child, Jesus, was determined by Joseph and not Mary even though Mary was also descended from David.
“In Jewish tradition, a child’s tribal affiliation is determined by the father’s lineage. This is based on the patrilineal descent system, where the tribe of the father is passed down to the children. For example, if the father is from the tribe of Judah, the children would also be considered part of the tribe of Judah.”
The conception of John the Baptist was miraculous, so what is the difference between John’s conception and Jesus’ conception.
The difference is that Jesus was conceived of the ‘Holy Spirit’. John was not.
Anna wants to reduce the Lord Jesus Christ to being just another ordinary Jewish man despite Him being conceived of the Holy Spirit and his origin from heaven where it says that the Word BECAME flesh.
When I proved that the fetus does not get it’s blood from the mother , but in fact generates it’s own blood, Anna decides to try a new tac, where she goes on about DNA.
With regard to replacement theology. I don’t quite know what it teaches. But I personally see Israel as having a unique relationship with God and I have said constantly that God will turn again to Israel.
But at this time Israel is in a very dark place and has been hailed as the ‘gayest country on the planet”. It is ruled by Zionists who hate Jesus Christ and whose agenda is paving the way for the revealing of the antichrist ‘man of sin’ and the attempted destruction of God’s people, both Jew and gentile.
The merciless destruction of Gaza is only the beginning. When the antichrist ‘man of sin’ is in power he will be ferocious in his persecution of both Jewish and gentile Christians.
Anna hears only what she wants to hear.
I can’t alter Anna’s tantrum behaviour. I can only speak the truth as I understand it.“
When Anna is losing the argument she opts to misrepresent what I’ve said. The truth means nothing to her. Her Zionist agenda is all that matters to her.
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Anna says:
“the real tragedy in the Gaza war: that Palestinian adults keep raising their children to be terrorists who will continue this horrific cycle of death and destruction.“
I have lived in Israel for over ten months and I have seen how every able man and woman is militarily trained and are all required to do service in the military. They are far more adept at killing than the Palestinians as can be seen by the ruthless massacre of women and children in Gaza.
Israel is a military machine.
The cycle of death and destruction began when the Zionists invaded Israel using Judaism as a cover. The Zionists have used their control of the media to hoodwink the likes of Anna who lap up all the propaganda and who support the Zionist cuckoo.
“Cuckoos lay their eggs in the nests of other bird species, leaving the unsuspecting host birds to raise their young. The cuckoo chick often hatches earlier and grows faster than the host’s own chicks, sometimes even pushing them out of the nest to monopolize the food supply.”
And this sums up the behaviour of the Zionists in the land of Palestine. The Zionist cuckoos have hijacked Judaism and Christianity, the have also hijacked the American presidency and popular media.
Anna can’t see this because she cannot think for herself. Instead she relies on her false teachers who push the Christian Zionist agenda.
The real terrorists are the Zionists who order massive bombs to be dropped in densely populated areas.
The figures speak for themselves. Over 45,000 Gazans are dead and counting.
Yesterday, January 5 , Israeli military strikes resulted in the deaths of at least 70 people, including women and children!!
But this is ok with Anna who has a deluded devotion to Zionism and cannot comprehend the real truth about Zionist imperialism and who has no empathy for Palestinian civilians.
She brushes aside any compassion with excuses where she blames the victims rather than the perpetrators.
The imperialist invades a country and when the locals resist the takeover of their land they are labelled as terrorists. This tactic has worked time and time again because people like Anna embrace the media rhetoric.
When it comes to Zionist Israel, Anna has no critical thinking.
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Unibokk – “But his conception was different to any other Jew… He had to be without blemish both physically and morally. This required him not being contaminated with Adam’s blood or DNA. It would not have been possible for Jesus to fulfil the law if he was tainted with Adam’s blood or DNA.”
Readers, please substitute “Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob” for “Adam” in the above comment by unibokk, because that’s what all his manipulation of the word of God truly is about.
It’s common that when people can’t accept the simple, clear truths found in the scriptures, they will often resort to a lot of mental gymnastics to try to twist them to fit their tastes.
The leaders of the Catholic denomination struggled with the idea that a perfect, sinless God could keep His holiness when taking on human flesh. Mary, like all humans, was born with original sin. They finally dreamed up the fabrication that Mary herself was conceived without sin. The false doctrine of the Immaculate Conception has been accepted since by devout Catholics.
German “scholars” during the 1930s and 40s also had a real dilemna – the apparent Jewishness of the Son of God. The Third Reich was doing its best to annihilate all the Jews. They finally produced “scholarship” that “demonstrated” Jesus was not descended from the people on Hitler’s target list but was the offspring of pure Aryans who had migrated to Galilee from Persia.
Likewise, unibokk in his aversion to all things Jewish, has not only alleged that the Jews in Israel are not Jews but neither is Jesus Himself. I’m surprised he hasn’t tried to pull the Khazar rabbit out of his hat, too. He would have made a great fake historian for the Nazis like their theological “scholars” except that they really, really wanted Jesus to be pure white Aryan.
All his attempts to pretzel the scriptures in order to concoct an iteration of Jesus Christ who is not a physical descendant of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is what you are seeing in his comments. Will revisionist history ever die? Apparently not.
Neither is the Christian antisemitism evident here ever going to go away anytime soon. Not until these people who call themselves followers of Christ actually stand before Him, not at His Bema seat, but at the Great White Throne judgment where they will discover too late there is no admittance to Heaven for those who say they love God but hate His people.
All their theological gyrations and maneuvering will not allow them to wiggle away from that.
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unibokk/anthony william – “Hello Anna I have previously mentioned the persecution of Christians at the hands of Muslims in certain countries such as Nigeria. I did this a number of times. But there was no expression of concern from other people including you, so no conversation developed.”
If “no conversation developed” it was because the majority of unibokk’s comments targeting Jews, Israel, and the Christians who support them typically drown out the rest of the conversation. It is a scant amount of times that unibokk has ever advocated for any groups other than Palestinians and/or Muslims. Leo Hohmann fans who’ve been reading the stories here for at least a couple years can attest to that, as well as to the rebukes unibokk has received from other readers and Leo himself for his blatant Jew-hatred and his animosity toward Christians who support the Jewish people. unibokk’s comments in this story and previous ones support my points.
unibokk – “But now, all of a sudden you are feigning a concern for the suffering of Christians, except of course for the Christian community in Gaza…”
Statistically, the vast majority of Gazans now are Muslims. Most Christians started leaving (understandably) when Hamas took over the strip. The fact that Hamas has been able to find more conscripts for their terrorist force (20,000 plus new recruits according to the latest reports) is a dismal reminder.
And speaking of fake and “feigning a concern,” in all of unibokk’s comments I’ve never seen him express any concern over the real tragedy in the Gaza war: that Palestinian adults keep raising their children to be terrorists who will continue this horrific cycle of death and destruction. The true victims in this bloody conflict besides Jews butchered by Hamas are the innocent young who are used as pawns, yet neither unibokk nor members of the international community including the UN or any human rights groups have ever held the adults responsible for what amounts to child abuse. Not a peep from unibokk about Palestinians robbing kids of their childhood and sealing their fate as recyclers of jihadist violence.
unibokk – “The actions of individuals who commit violence in the name of religion often do not reflect the true teachings of that religion.
unibokk has inadvertently prosecuted the very group he has been playing defense attorney for. Religious fanatics like Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Houthis, Al-Qaeda, ISIS, etc., etc., etc. DO “reflect the true teachings” of Islam because they are following the exact commands in the Quran to kill, behead, and dismember unbelievers.
unibokk – “the frenzied Anna…”
Please. The only one I see furiously hustling now is unibokk as he tries to repair his muddied reputation as a rabid antisemite, while at the same time posting a plethora of his comments that always ALWAYS demonize Israel, Jews, and Christians who support the Jewish people.
unibokk – “she’s a dispensationalist”
Slapping labels on Christians who support Israel is a failed tactic as unibokk tries to blanket his antisemitism.
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Anna says:
“Pathetic attempt at defense. If he were truly “appalled” at the slaughter of Christians at the hands of Muslims, unibokk wouldn’t be spending 99% of his comments mudslinging at Israelis/Jews and Christians who support Israel, and would be focusing on the very real atrocities being committed at this very minute against our brothers and sisters in Christ at the hands of those who follow the commands of the Quran.“
Hello Anna I have previously mentioned the persecution of Christians at the hands of Muslims in certain countries such as Nigeria. I did this a number of times. But there was no expression of concern from other people including you, so no conversation developed.
But now, all of a sudden you are feigning a concern for the suffering of Christians, except of course for the Christian community in Gaza which doesn’t seem to concern you but has been discussed by Kkayjae and me.
Anna seems quite comfortable with the fact that over 45 thousand people in Gaza, mostly women and children, have been killed in just 15 months due to the torrent of huge ‘20,000 pound bombs and missiles which have been unleashed in built up areas. According to Anna , this is not a very real atrocity. Anna actually endorses this genocide.
As for the actions of those who murder Christians in Africa, please consider this:
The actions of individuals who commit violence in the name of religion often do not reflect the true teachings of that religion and Anna is an example of this. I don’t pretend to have read the full Koran, but I do know that there are many decent, hard working Muslim people seeking to provide for their families who abhor violence and who live a peaceful life within their communities. .
Anna justifies murder and genocide in the name of Christianity for which she will be judged by God. She has no empathy for the suffering of the Palestinians in Gaza and the west bank. Those who claim to be Christians should have a heart of flesh but the frenzied Anna has a heart of stone.
Christian Zionists are dragging Christ’s name in the mud. Their false Christianity is vicious and without mercy as they seek to supplant the true Christ with the antichrist ‘man of sin’ in their quest to build an earthly Zion. They ignore the fact that the true Zion is in heaven.
In America, most mass shootings are committed by white males. Even the two attempts on Trump’s life were by white males. But Anna focuses on one incident involving a possible Muslim and uses him to tar the whole Muslim community.
But hey , she’s a dispensationalist creating a narrative of convenience. And that’s what dispensationalists do. Isn’t it Anna.
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Anna says
“Unfortunately, in unibokk’s case, I don’t think it’s because he can’t believe that Jesus was born biologically/genetically Jewish but that he doesn’t want to believe it, and even worse yet, he doesn’t want all you to believe it.”
Stop misrepresenting me.
Here’s what I believe:
I can say clearly that Jesus was a complete Jewish man. In fact he was more Jewish than any other as evidenced by his complete fulfilment of the Mosaic Law. But his conception was different to any other Jew.
He had to be without blemish both physically and morally. This required him not being contaminated with Adam’s blood or DNA. It would not have been possible for Jesus to fulfil the law if he was tainted with Adam’s blood or DNA.
Both Joseph and Mary were descended from the tribe of Judah. So, why was Joseph excluded from giving Mary his seed in order for Christ to be conceived, given that Jesus’ lineage would be in Joseph’s tribe?
And why did Jesus say:
Matthew 11:11 “Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist;
We know that Jesus was far greater than John the Baptist. So what differentiated Jesus from John.
That’s right , Jesus was conceived of the Holy Spirit.
The angel clearly said to Joseph
“thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.”
Notice that Joseph’s lineage is mentioned here. Do you know why?
Because the lineage of the child, Jesus, was determined by Joseph and not Mary even though Mary was also descended from David.
“In Jewish tradition, a child’s tribal affiliation is determined by the father’s lineage. This is based on the patrilineal descent system, where the tribe of the father is passed down to the children. For example, if the father is from the tribe of Judah, the children would also be considered part of the tribe of Judah.”
The conception of John the Baptist was miraculous, so what is the difference between John’s conception and Jesus’ conception.
The difference is that Jesus was conceived of the ‘Holy Spirit’. John was not.
Anna wants to reduce the Lord Jesus Christ to being just another ordinary Jewish man despite Him being conceived of the Holy Spirit and his origin from heaven where it says that the Word BECAME flesh.
When I proved that the fetus does not get it’s blood from the mother , but in fact generates it’s own blood, Anna decides to try a new tac, where she goes on about DNA.
With regard to replacement theology. I don’t quite know what it teaches. But I personally see Israel as having a unique relationship with God and I have said constantly that God will turn again to Israel.
But at this time Israel is in a very dark place and has been hailed as the ‘gayest country on the planet”. It is ruled by Zionists who hate Jesus Christ and whose agenda is paving the way for the revealing of the antichrist ‘man of sin’ and the attempted destruction of God’s people, both Jew and gentile.
The merciless destruction of Gaza is only the beginning. When the antichrist ‘man of sin’ is in power he will be ferocious in his persecution of both Jewish and gentile Christians.
Anna hears only what she wants to hear.
I can’t alter Anna’s tantrum behaviour. I can only speak the truth as I understand it.
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Anna says:
“unibokk’s comments compare two different texts, the Quran and Talmud, but he fails to refute the fact that it’s not those who read the Talmud but those who adhere to the Quran who are the ones leaving bloody trails of death and destruction for 1400 years and counting.”
As I’ve already said that all of the three Abrahamic religions are guilty of bloodshed, but Anna can only see one group due to her Zionist bias.
But in recent years the Jews top the list with deaths in Gaza surpassing 45 thousand and counting. Not to mention the total ongoing destruction of infrastructure including homes and hospitals.
A true Christian could not support this atrocity but Christian Zionists are applauding it as an act of God.
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@ Anna
“the Quran shows more respect for Jesus than the Talmud,”
This is true. Thanks for mentioning it.
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Anna says:
“The fake “Jesus” in the Quran is apparently quite comfortable with Quran 8:12, which tells Muslims to behead and dismember those who don’t believe in Allah.
Anna is wrong
Here is what the verse actually says:
“When your Lord revealed to the angels, ‘I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip.’”
Had you bothered to actually read the verse you would have noticed that the instruction was to the angels and does not instruct Muslims to behead those who believe in Allah.
Also , this saying was specific to the battle of Badr which happened on March 13, 624
Anna, why did you tell this lie?? Was it an attempt to demonise the Muslim community in order to justify the atrocities being committed against the Palestinians in Gaza?
I am having to correct yet another one of your errors which you are using to demonise the Muslim community.
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unibokk – “I believe that by comparison, the Quran shows more respect for Jesus than the Talmud.”
unibokk – “blah blah blah…Anna you seem unable or are unwilling to distinguish between the current Satanic Zionist State of Israel and God’s promises for Israel…blah blah blah”
I’m not going to get pulled into a blow by blow rebuttal of the profusion of unibokk’s comments demonizing Israel because they’re simply a regurgitation of those he’s been posting for well over a year in other stories by Leo.
Instead I’d like to point out that he did not address the truth I stated in response to his statement that “the Quran shows more respect for Jesus than the Talmud,” but tried to deflect from it by launching into a plethora of the same old same old smears against Israel and Jews.
He has failed to present any evidence refuting the stark reality I pointed out in the following comments:
Anna – “The fake “Jesus” in the Quran is apparently quite comfortable with Quran 8:12, which tells Muslims to behead and dismember those who don’t believe in Allah. In stark contrast, there is not one word in the Talmud or Tanakh (Old Testament) about slaughtering and dismembering everyone who doesn’t believe in Yahweh. The history of Islam is one of intolerance and bloodshed. Jews, whether or not they follow the Talmud, do not currently and have never committed the following atrocities:
“Over the next 14 centuries, over 270 million people were slaughtered in the name of Islamic Jihad. Jews, Christians, Hindus, Zoroastrians, everyone who refused to become Muslim.”
– Christian apologist David Wood
“Open Doors reports that during 2022 alone, 5,621 Christians were murdered in mostly Islamic countries, with 2,100 churches attacked and 4,542 Christians detained.”
unibokk’s comments compare two different texts, the Quran and Talmud, but he fails to refute the fact that it’s not those who read the Talmud but those who adhere to the Quran who are the ones leaving bloody trails of death and destruction for 1400 years and counting.
Readers, please also see Leo’s comments to unibokk trying to point out the truth to him, specifically beginning with the following:
Leo – “OK, I rarely, as you know, weigh in on these squabbles, but you said something in this comment Anthony that is a deceptive lie from the pit of hell. It was this:
“Islam has it’s faults but we should acknowledge that the Koran shows great respect to Jesus Christ hailing him as the Messiah.”
Yes, it is a deceptive lie from the pit of hell. We just had a terror attack in this country in New Orleans by someone who adhered to the very book that unibokk is holding up to all of us for our admiration and who listened to the teachings of his radical imam.
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unibokk – “I am appalled at the slaughter of Christians in Muslim countries. I have no argument with you there”
Pathetic attempt at defense. If he were truly “appalled” at the slaughter of Christians at the hands of Muslims, unibokk wouldn’t be spending 99% of his comments mudslinging at Israelis/Jews and Christians who support Israel, and would be focusing on the very real atrocities being committed at this very minute against our brothers and sisters in Christ at the hands of those who follow the commands of the Quran.
unibokk – “If you read my comments with some balance and fairness, you will see that I am NOT a supporter of Islam. My comparison between the Talmud and the Koran is to bring balance into the conversation.”
Sheer taqiyya.
There is no balance in his comments – ever. The majority them aim to try to manipulate readers into believing his demonization of those who live in Israel. Who are Israelis today? People just like you and me, except many of them are Holocaust survivors and descendents of them. Some families making Aliyah are fleeing from European countries where antisemitism levels are hitting the roof and getting as bad as the 1930s and 40s. That is in direct proportion to the massive influx of immigrants from Middle Eastern countries. France, UK, Belgium, Germany, Netherlands are the worst.
Even in this country, Jews are having to hide their identity when they go out in public. They are being threatened and attacked by pro-Palestinian/Hamas protesters and deranged sympathizers.
We’ll be fortunate if we don’t have more terror attacks similar to or even worse than the recent one in New Orleans by someone who was an avid reader of unibokk’s vaunted Quran.
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Anna says: “The fake “Jesus” in the Quran is apparently quite comfortable with Quran 8:12, which tells Muslims to behead and dismember those who don’t believe in Allah.
Anna is wrong
Here is what the verse actually says:
“When your Lord revealed to the angels, ‘I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip.'”
Had you bothered to actually read the verse you would have noticed that the instruction was to the angels and does not instruct Muslims to behead those who believe in Allah.
Also , this saying was specific to the battle of Badr which happened on March 13, 624
Anna, why did you tell this lie?? Was it an attempt to demonise the Muslim community in order to justify the atrocities being committed against the Palestinians in Gaza?
I am having to correct yet another one of your errors which you are using to demonise the Muslim community.
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unibokk/Anthony William – “When God created Adam He did not require another human being, to supply Adam with DNA or blood. Adam was made from the dust of the ground. Adam was earthly and disobedient. Christ on the other hand was the Word of God made flesh. Again, God did not require another human being to supply Jesus with DNA.”
unibokk’s comments are the most radical form of Replacement Theology I think I’ve ever read. He not only wants to demonize Israel, Jews, and Christian supporters of Israel, but now he wants to totally erase the Jewish ancestry of the JEWISH Messiah Yeshua. This is similar to the apostate Pope Francis recently trying to infer that Christ is not Jewish, but a Palestinian by posing in a nativity scene with a keffiyeh as the swaddling clothes.
unibokk is constantly in all his comments trying to find a way around scriptures that don’t support his antisemitic narrative.
That is NOT presenting the truth for the sake of Christians, as he claims. It is deliberate manipulation of the readers.
God had not created human DNA until he created Adam. From that point on, every human being has been born with the DNA of both their parents. Jesus is the only one born with that solely of His Jewish mother, Mary, because He was conceived through the Holy Spirit and not by Joseph.
To reiterate, Jesus is both fully human and fully God. Before His incarnation, He existed eternally with the Father and the Holy Spirit. Three persons in one God.
When He took on human flesh, He received the physical DNA of Mary and therefore of King David, who was her ancestor through David’s son Nathan. God promised David that descendants of his would always sit on the throne. That means physical descendant because David wasn’t God. God also said that He would raise up a righteous branch (Messiah) from David.
Of the increase of His government and peace
There will be no end,
Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom,
– Isaiah 9:7
Paul, a bondservant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated to the gospel of God which He promised before through His prophets in the Holy Scriptures, concerning His Son Jesus Christ our Lord, who was born of the seed of David according to the flesh, and declared to be the Son of God with power according to the Spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead.
– Romans 1:1-3
unibokk’s attempt to deny that Jesus is the physical descendant of Jews on His mother’s side is similar to the Roman Catholic church’s twisting of scriptures to falsely present Mary herself as being conceived without sin. The church leaders fabricated that doctrine because they didn’t have the faith to believe that the Son of God could be conceived in a human who was born of original sin. That illustrates their ignorance that God is perfect and holy and can’t sin.
Unfortunately, in unibokk’s case, I don’t think it’s because he can’t believe that Jesus was born biologically/genetically Jewish but that he doesn’t want to believe it, and even worse yet, he doesn’t want all you to believe it.
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unibokk – “I have asked you in the past to refrain from responding to my comments because it’s tiring having to constantly correct you and clarify what my comments were actually saying. I only answer your comments for the sake of others on this forum but it would be better if you did not respond to my comments, to begin with.”
Dear Leo Hohmann fans: Don’t let ANY READER try to censor you on this website. We have the first amendment right of free speech. If anyone posts comments on a forum, other readers have the full right to respond to or dispute such comments.
We are no longer living under King George III. That war has been fought and won.
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Anna you seem unable or unwilling to realise that “not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.”
I would remind you of :
Roman 9:6-8
“For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.
Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, ‘It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.’ In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.”
Anna, you are taking the atrocities of the Zionist State of Israel and attributing these actions to God’s people and then justifying these actions in the wrong belief that God is blessing the Zionist State of Israel.
The early church shows clearly that the majority of Jews are not the true Israel. They are in fact opposed to Christ and his followers. This is still evident in Israel where Jews who convert to Christ are despised by the majority of Jews.
God used the nation of Israel to reveal himself to the world and to be a bearer of the oracles of God and of His truth. The nation of Israel have constantly fallen into disbelief and God has repeatedly forgiven them.
As I’ve said in another comment God will turn again to Israel and all Israel will be saved.
But that has not happened yet as evidenced by the depraved moral behaviour in Israel where Christ is rejected and where Jerusalem is trampled over by Gay Pride parades.
Jesus said that no man can come to the Father except through him. There are no exceptions and there is not other way.
So, we need to judge events in the light of Christ’s teaching.
The apostasy is well underway both in the Zionist State of Israel and in the nominal Christian church. The church’s demise has been greatly influenced by the false teachings of ‘dispensationalism’ which has contributed greatly to the heresy of ‘Christian Zionism’ which in turn is contributing to the setting up of Satan’s throne on this earth.
Anna you seem unable or are unwilling to distinguish between the current Satanic Zionist State of Israel and God’s promises for Israel. You wrongly think that it is blessed by God. When the evidence shows that it clearly is NOT.
So, why are you defending the indefensible ?
You have been brainwashed by false teachers such as Amir Tsafiri
You come on here attacking people whilst cherry picking from their comments and creating a misleading narrative which you then attack.
But creating a misleading narrative is what dispensationalists do , isn’t it.
I have asked you in the past to refrain from responding to my comments because it’s tiring having to constantly correct you and clarify what my comments were actually saying.
I only answer your comments for the sake of others on this forum but it would be better if you did not respond to my comments, to begin with.
If only your zeal was accompanied by proper knowledge and understanding, you could be of service to God.
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unibokk and kkayjae: I love how you two consistenty get it right, kudos to you both!
I know it’s deeply frustrating in trying to hopelessly correct “those others” here who think they know so much and are so eager to tell you two how wrong you both are.
I love this: “If only your zeal was accompanied by proper knowledge and understanding, you could be of service to God”. Well said, amen brother!
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Thanks Gary, for your encouraging words. 😊
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Most of the comments below by professing Christians that target Israel and the Jewish people reflect the same antipathy I’ve encountered on a couple other not-specifically-Christian websites.
Dr. Michael Brown has written a great book, “Our Hands Are Stained With Blood,” which is an exposé of the horrific persecution of the Jews by the Church.
The following are quotes from the book that specifically address the fictitious allegation that God has abandoned Israel due to their disobedience. This is a key point in the heretical doctrine called Replacement Theology/Supersessionism, which tries to prove that the Church completely replaces Israel.
From Chapter 12, “Has God Forsaken His People?”
What if Israel broke the covenant? What would then happen to them? Listen to these unmistakably clear truths: …”Though I completely destroy all the nations among which I scatter you, I will not completely destroy you. I will discipline you but only with justice; I will not let you go entirely unpunished” (Jer. 30:11).
The exact same words are repeated in Jeremiah 46:28. God will completely destroy other nations but He will not completely destroy Israel! He treats His people differently from other people; they are judged more strictly but they will never be wiped out.
No matter what Israel does, God will never forsake them as a distinct people. In Jeremiah 31:31-34, the Lord declares that He will make a new covenant with Israel and Judah. But He doesn’t stop there. It’s as if He’s saying, “Now don’t get Me wrong! Don’t think this new covenant means I’m abandoning My people. No!”
This is what the Lord says, he who appoints the sun to shine by day, who decrees the moon and stars to shine by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar – the Lord Almighty is his name: “Only if these decrees vanish from my sight,” declares the Lord, “will the descendants of Israel ever cease to be a nation before me.” This is what the Lord says, “Only if the heavens above can be measured and the foundations of the earth below be searched out will I reject all the descendants of Israel because of all they have done,” declares the Lord (Jeremiah 31:35-37).
As long as there is a sun, moon, stars, earth and sea, there will be a distinct people of Israel – no matter what they do. It’s God’s promise! It’s true. Even when He has disciplined His people, He has done it with a redemptive and compassionate heart. As He said through Jeremiah, “’Is not Ephraim my dear son, the child in whom I delight? Though I often speak against him, I still remember him. Therefore my heart yearns for him, I have great compassion for him,’ declares the Lord” (Jer. 31:20).
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Anna you seem unable or unwilling to realise that “not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.”
I would remind you of :
Roman 9:6-8
“For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.
Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, ‘It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.’ In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.”
Anna, you are taking the atrocities of the Zionist State of Israel and attributing these actions to God’s people and then justifying these actions in the wrong belief that God is blessing the Zionist State of Israel.
The early church shows clearly that the majority of Jews are not the true Israel. They are in fact opposed to Christ and his followers. This is still evident in Israel where Jews who convert to Christ are despised by the majority of Jews.
God used the nation of Israel to reveal himself to the world and to be a bearer of the oracles of God and of His truth. The nation of Israel have constantly fallen into disbelief and God has repeatedly forgiven them.
As I’ve said in another comment God will turn again to Israel and all Israel will be saved.
But that has not happened yet as evidenced by the depraved moral behaviour in Israel where Christ is rejected and where Jerusalem is trampled over by Gay Pride parades.
Jesus said that no man can come to the Father except through him. There are no exceptions and there is not other way.
So, we need to judge events in the light of Christ’s teaching.
The apostasy is well underway both in the Zionist State of Israel and in the nominal Christian church. The church’s demise has been greatly influenced by the false teachings of ‘dispensationalism’ which has contributed greatly to the heresy of ‘Christian Zionism’ which in turn is contributing to the setting up of Satan’s throne on this earth.
Anna you seem unable or are unwilling to distinguish between the current Satanic Zionist State of Israel and God’s promises for Israel. You wrongly think that it is blessed by God. When the evidence shows that it clearly is NOT.
So, why are you defending the indefensible ?
You have been brainwashed by false teachers such as Amir Tsafiri
You come on here attacking people whilst cherry picking from their comments and creating a misleading narrative which you then attack.
But creating a misleading narrative is what dispensationalists do , isn’t it.
I have asked you in the past to refrain from responding to my comments because it’s tiring having to constantly correct you and clarify what my comments were actually saying.
I only answer your comments for the sake of others on this forum but it would be better if you did not respond to my comments, to begin with.
If only your zeal was accompanied by proper knowledge and understanding, you could be of service to God.
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Numbers 23:21
King James Version
21 He hath not beheld iniquity in Jacob, neither hath he seen perverseness in Israel: the Lord his God is with him, and the shout of a king is among them.
This prophecy was given to Baalam. Let me ask you a question. At what point was Israel/Jacob sinless in the OT? Answer: Never. God spends much of the OT pleading with & punishing Israel for it’s sin (iniquity & perverseness). So why would God give Baalam a prophecy where he speaks of Israel being sinless (not beheld iniquity/neither hath He seen perverseness)??
The answer comes from cross referencing Scriptures. Look at the above verse; the SHOUT of a King is among Israel. What does 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 say?
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
King James Version
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
The Lord is the King. He descends with a SHOUT…the SHOUT of a King is among Israel. Now look back at Numbers 23:21…
Numbers 23:21
King James Version
21 He hath not beheld iniquity in Jacob, neither hath he seen perverseness in Israel: the Lord his God is with him, and the shout of a king is among them.
Israel/Jacob’s God is WITH him…that’s exactly what gets fulfilled in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17. But the clincher is sinlessness. Baalam is given a prophecy in Numbers 23:21 where God sees Jacob/Israel as being sinless. That didn’t happen in the OT and it won’t happen at all until Christ returns & Israel/Jacob (the church) gets sinless immortal bodies (1 Corinthians 15:51-57).
1 Corinthians 15:51-57
King James Version
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
So by cross referencing Numbers 23:21 with 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 & 1 Corinthians 15:51-57, we can conclude yet again that American evangelicalism’s dispensationalist heresies are deceiving millions by denying that the church IS the Israel/Jacob of God. And if Jacob/Israel has an end times period of “trouble”, then that means it’s OUR TROUBLE, not just some distant middle eastern nation’s trouble.
And if that wasn’t enough, the “51” or “triple 17” numerical pattern also ties all 3 sets of these Scriptures together. Numbers 23:21…Numbers = 7 letters. 7+23(chapter)+21(verse) = 51 or 17+17+17. There’s also 30 words in verse 21 of Numbers 23…30 words + verse 21 = 51 or 17+17+17. Now look at 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17.
1st Thessalonians…Take the 1 from 1st & add to verse 16 = 17. Then you add the 4(chapter) to the 13 letters in Thessalonians = 17. Then you’re left with the 17 for verse 17. That’s 3 17s or 51 & the verses are talking about the exact same event Baalam was talking about in Numbers 23:21…where we find the 51 or triple 17 pattern 2 ways. And lastly, 1 Corinthians 15…
1 Corinthians 15:51
King James Version
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
Notice the verse #….51 or 17+17+17 and this verse begins the description of the exact same event in 1 Thessalonians 4 & Numbers 23. This isn’t all of these either btw. This is only a few. The “51” or “triple 17” pattern repeats all throughout the OT & NT in the KJB in relation to the 2nd coming/rapture/resurrection/destruction of the wicked.
Matthew 24:31; Matthew = 7 letters. 7+2+4(chapter 24)+3+1(verse 31) = 17
Matthew 24:31
King James Version
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Mark 13:27…Mark = 4 letters. 4+1+3(chapter)+2+7(verse) = 17
Mark 13:27
King James Version
27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.
Luke 21:28…Luke = 4 letters. 4+2+1(chapter)+2+8(verse) = 17
Luke 21:28
King James Version
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
51 or 3 17s and all 3 verses are talking about the same exact event.
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Unibokk – “I believe that by comparison, the Quran shows more respect for Jesus than the Talmud.”
The fake “Jesus” in the Quran is apparently quite comfortable with Quran 8:12, which tells Muslims to behead and dismember those who don’t believe in Allah.
In stark contrast, there is not one word in the Talmud or Tanakh (Old Testament) about slaughtering and dismembering everyone who doesn’t believe in Yahweh.
The history of Islam is one of intolerance and bloodshed. Jews, whether or not they follow the Talmud, do not currently and have never committed the following atrocities:
“Over the next 14 centuries, over 270 million people were slaughtered in the name of Islamic Jihad. Jews, Christians, Hindus, Zoroastrians, everyone who refused to become Muslim.”
– Christian apologist David Wood
“Open Doors reports that during 2022 alone, 5,621 Christians were murdered in mostly Islamic countries, with 2,100 churches attacked and 4,542 Christians detained.”
These attacks are never ending. Here are more statistics (from “Jihad Report,” Religion of Peace website):
For the latest week (December 21, 2024 to December 27, 2024):
24 attacks, 136 killed, 58 injured, 1 suicide blast, 11 countries
For the month of November:
137 attacks, 783 killed, 770 injured, 2 suicide blasts, 26 countries
Shall I go on? No need. You get the gist.
Unibokk – “Christian Zionism…is far more dangerous to the church than Islam, because Christians are not fooled by Islam but they are fooled by Christian Zionism.”
Tell that to the thousands of Christians whose family members have been slaughtered by Muslims.
Unibokk – “My first concern is for Christ’s saints that they be kept in God’s truth and as you well know this has always been my emphasis on this site.”
Relentlessly demonizing Israel and all Christians who support the Jewish state, while at the same time elevating a killing manual like the Quran, shows not only an appalling lack of knowledge of God’s truth but an unwitting defense of the genocidal death cult of Islam.
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Christy – “He’s been trying to anialate Jews for 1000’s of years.”
Christy is absolutely right. Lucifer has been trying to destroy the Jews ever since he discovered which people group the Messiah would come from. Pharaohs, Hamans, Caesars, popes, pogroms, Hitlers, Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis. Even on the pages of this website where a jihad of words is unleashed against God’s people who live in the land He gave to them.
Christy – “Jesus has Jewish blood “
Jesus is genetically a Jew. He is fully human and fully God, called the “Son of Man” and “Son of God.” He, like the rest of us, received His DNA at conception, but only from one parent – His Jewish mother Mary. Conception was through the Holy Spirit and did not involve a human father.
The Bible tells us the Messiah is from the “Seed” of the woman (Genesis 3:15), and He is “a Rod from the stem of Jesse” (Isaiah 11:1), from “the tribe of Judah, Root of David” (Revelation 5:5). In addition to Son of Man and Son of God, He is called “Son of David” (Matthew 22:42).
Matthew 1 gives the genealogy of Jesus through his adoptive father Joseph, who was descended from David and Bathsheba’s son Solomon. Luke 3 contains the genealogy of Jesus through his mother Mary, who was descended from David and Bathsheba’s son Nathan.
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Abraham only has 1 seed (Galatians 3:16).
If you belong to Christ thru faith then you are part of this 1 seed of Abraham & ethnicity plays no role in determining this (Galatians 3:7, 28-29).
Ethnicity is irrelevant & the new creature in Christ is the Israel of God (Galatians 6:15-16).
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Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you. [Galatians 3:8]
The promise of redemption, a Messiah, was the only component of the covenants God made with Abraham and his descendants that was extended to the Gentiles as well (“all nations will be blessed through you”).
So of course redemption doesn’t have anything to do with ethnicity because salvation is open to both Jews and Gentiles.
However, God has not abandoned Israel and the church does not replace Israel in God’s covenant relationship with them. The land is theirs only. He promised to return them after periods of exile and He did. He promised protection from their enemies and He has. There is no way they could have survived all the horrific persecution, attempts to annihilate them and wars declared against them by multiple nations without His protection.
As Paul says in Romans 11:
I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God has not cast away His people whom He foreknew.
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anna19722003says:
“Jesus is genetically a Jew. He is fully human and fully God, called the “Son of Man” and “Son of God.” He, like the rest of us, received His DNA at conception, but only from one parent – His Jewish mother Mary. Conception was through the Holy Spirit and did not involve a human father.”
Anna is wrong!!
For the sake of Christians who want the truth I will correct Anna’s error.
Here’s the truth:
When God created Adam He did not require another human being, to supply Adam with DNA or blood. Adam was made from the dust of the ground.
Adam was earthly and disobedient.
Christ on the other hand was the Word of God made flesh.
Again, God did not require another human being to supply Jesus with DNA.
The ‘new Adam’, ie., Jesus Christ, came from heaven.
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
“and the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.
Jesus makes this clear in John’s gospel, when He says to the pharisees, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.”
Mary’s purpose was to carry Jesus in her womb so that he would be born under the law into the line of Judah and David, in order to fulfil the law and the prophets. In so doing Jesus would go on to keep the law of Moses and be the lamb without blemish to be sacrificed on the cross for our sins.
It’s worth noting that the word ‘seed’ in Genesis 3, comes from the Hebrew word זֶרַע zera` {zeh’-rah} meaning offspring/descendants.
This word is used twice in the same sentence and refers to the serpent and to the woman.
“15And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.”
So, Eve’s descendant Jesus Christ would be at enmity with the devils seed .
An example of this enmity can be seen in John’s gospel when Jesus speaks to a group of non believing Jews. Jesus says to them:
“Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.”
Jesus was conceived of the Holy Spirit and once a baby is conceived he produces his own blood. Jesus’ Jewish identity came from being born into the line of Judah and did not require Mary’s DNA or blood .
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Just to clarify, the Hebrew word זֶרַע can be used in be used in both singular and plural contexts. It primarily means “seed,” but it can also refer to “offspring” or “descendants.” In the singular form, it can denote a single seed or an individual descendant, as in the case of Jesus, which Paul refers to in Galatians 3:16
Galatians 3:16
Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
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S Z – “there is no “Palestine”. A Roman named Hadrian named it Palestinia because he hated the Jews and wanted to erase them.”
Unibokk – Hmmm, using your logic would mean that there is no ‘America’ .who gave america it’s name The name “America” comes from the Italian explorer Amerigo Vespucci.“
Hmmm, God didn’t name America, but He did name the land that He gave to His people “Israel” and then “Israel” and “Judea” when it was divided into two kingdoms. That supersedes names Hadrian or any other presumptuous humans want to slap upon that piece of real estate.
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Genesis 49:17
King James Version
17 Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward.
In 1827, John Nelson Darby, the father of modern dispensationalism & the pre trib rapture heresy fell from a horse and was seriously injured. During his recovery is when he developed his doctrine that claims the church is separate from Israel thereby creating the new testament spiritual tribe of Dan.
The OT Danites rejected their allotment of land within Israel because their “coasts went out too little for them” (Joshua 19:47). They wanted more room to roam. So they moved north & physically conquered Laish/Leshem (Judges 18). Laish/Leshem was a land of Zidonian immigrants. Jezebel was a Zidonian.
Laish was quiet, secure, large, careless (careless = lukewarm like Laodicea), lawless and was a land of plenty with no need of anything (like Laodicea). The OT Danites created & practiced a false religion in Laish. This false religion borrowed from at least one aspect of the true worship of the true God when the Danites took Micah’s Levite as their priest. Laish means “lion”. Leshem means “precious jewel”.
Remember what Paul said in 1 Corinthians 10? The things in the OT serve as examples for us today. Remember what Ecclesiastes tells us? The thing that has been, shall be & there’s nothing new under the sun.
The NT Danites (dispensationalists) have rejected their allotment within the Israel of God (Galatians 6:15-16) by insisting that the church is separate from Israel. They do so because the law of God makes their “coasts go out too little for them”. They want room to roam just as their OT brethren did.
The NT Danites have spiritually conquered America thru their doctrines. America is identical to Laish/Leshem. America is large, quiet, secure, careless (lukewarm like Laodicea) plentiful with no need of anything (like Laodicea) and because of the NT Danites doctrines, American religion has mostly become lawless and has spilled over into the culture at large.
American religion & it’s culture is dominated by feminism; the Jezebel (Zidonian) spirit. America is a land of immigrants. Laish means “lion”. The symbol of Britain is the lion. America, the land of immigrants was birthed out of Britain’s empire and many of it’s founders came from there. Leshem means, “precious gem”. Shakespeare once called England, “this precious stone set in the silver sea”. Also, Ireland is called the emerald isle. Again, America, land of immigrants birthed from Britain’s empire.
Just like their OT counterparts, the NT Danites have created a false religion that follows a false christ in their conquered land of America. The false christ that they worship is a racial segregationist, respecter of persons & a polygamist. He has a Gentile bride who gets to say a sinners prayer & do whatever she wants to do before escaping the tribulation.
And his other bride is a tribulation era Jewish bride who must keep the law & endure to the end. This false christ can’t be found anywhere in the Bible, but just like the OT Danites, the NT Danites have mingled some things from the true worship of the true God with a whole lot of error & apostasy.
In Revelation 7 Dan has no inheritance (salvation). That’s because in order to teach or believe or evangelize from a dispensational viewpoint, one must violate the commands given in Revelation 22:18-19. These verses pronounce curses upon all who add or take away from the Book. One of these curses promises removal of their part from the book of life.
The modern spiritual Danites (dispensationalists) take away Matthew 24, Mark 13, and 19 chapters of Revelation and just throw them in the proverbial trash can in relation to church application. In 2 Peter 3:15-16, Peter warned us about those who misunderstand Paul and twist the Scriptures to their own destruction. That’s dispensationalism (modern spiritual tribe of Dan) in a nutshell. Flee the heresies of the Danites while you still can.
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Anna you seem unable or unwilling to realise that “not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.”
I would remind you of :
Roman 9:6-8
“For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.
Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, ‘It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.’ In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.”
Anna, you are taking the atrocities of the Zionist State of Israel and attributing these actions to God’s people and then justifying these actions in the wrong belief that God is blessing the Zionist State of Israel.
The early church shows clearly that the majority of Jews are not the true Israel. They are in fact opposed to Christ and his followers. This is still evident in Israel where Jews who convert to Christ are despised by the majority of Jews.
God used the nation of Israel to reveal himself to the world and to be a bearer of the oracles of God and of His truth. The nation of Israel have constantly fallen into disbelief and God has repeatedly forgiven them.
As I’ve said in another comment God will turn again to Israel and all Israel will be saved.
But that has not happened yet as evidenced by the depraved moral behaviour in Israel where Christ is rejected and where Jerusalem is trampled over by Gay Pride parades.
Jesus said that no man can come to the Father except through him. There are no exceptions and there is not other way.
So, we need to judge events in the light of Christ’s teaching.
The apostasy is well underway both in the Zionist State of Israel and in the nominal Christian church. The church’s demise has been greatly influenced by the false teachings of ‘dispensationalism’ which has contributed greatly to the heresy of ‘Christian Zionism’ which in turn is contributing to the setting up of Satan’s throne on this earth.
Anna you seem unable or are unwilling to distinguish between the current Satanic Zionist State of Israel and God’s promises for Israel. You wrongly think that it is blessed by God. When the evidence shows that it clearly is NOT.
So, why are you defending the indefensible ?
You have been brainwashed by false teachers such as Amir Tsafiri
You come on here attacking people whilst cherry picking from their comments and creating a misleading narrative which you then attack.
But creating a misleading narrative is what dispensationalists do , isn’t it.
I have asked you in the past to refrain from responding to my comments because it’s tiring having to constantly correct you and clarify what my comments were actually saying.
I only answer your comments for the sake of others on this forum but it would be better if you did not respond to my comments, to begin with.
If only your zeal was accompanied by proper knowledge and understanding, you could be of service to God.
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There is history of bloodshed in all of the ‘Abrahamic’ religions.
You regularly quote David Wood who is not a reliable historian and who is at odds with other more qualified historians on the subject. But , hey! old Woody suits your false narrative, doesn’t he.
I am appalled at the slaughter of Christians in Muslim countries. I have no argument with you there. In fact I have often quoted figures on this to show that Christians are not exempt from tribulation and suffering for their faith.
If you read my comments with some balance and fairness, you will see that I am NOT a supporter of Islam. My comparison between the Talmud and the Koran is to bring balance into the conversation. I am not ‘elevating’ the Koran when I show that it’s writings are more respectful than what is contained in the Talmud. I am simply stating the facts.
The Koran misrepresents Christ as does Scofield’s annotated bible, but the Koran does not stoop so low as the Talmud which accuses Jesus of sorcery, idolatry, and leading people astray, which is pure blasphemy. It also says that Jesus is in hell, punished with boiling excrement.
The reality is, that in Israel, the Talmud is preferred over the Torah and more widely read. The Talmud contains teachings which Jesus refuted and condemned as the teachings of men.
“He replied, ‘Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written: “These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules.” You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.’ And he continued, ‘You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions!'”
I am not defending Islam and when I condemn Zionism I am pointing to it’s true identity and it’s motives. Zionism rejects Christ in so many ways because it is earthly and cannot aspire to the true Zion which is in heaven.
Whether you like it or not, Christ will not dwell in the new temple proposed by the Zionists, but Satan will.
Christ will not dwell on this earth again, instead he will reign from the new Jerusalem which will come down from heaven and will be situated in the new earth. This new earth will be inhabited by Christ and the true Israel which will include the remnant from the nation of Israel who have been converted to Christ and also the remnant of the church who have true faith and have not become apostate.
In Christ there is neither Jew nor gentile, we are all one and will share with Christ in his everlasting kingdom.
Do I hate the Jews? No! Do I hate the Moslems? No!
As a Christian t is not in my remit to hate anyone. But I do hate Zionism because I know where it is headed and how it has hijacked Judaism and Christianity which it is using to set up Satan’s kingdom on this earth.
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Hello Leo , I think it is you who are playing mind games. You took my mention of the Quran and you then quoted from the Hadith in order to misrepresent what I had said.
I believe that by comparison , the Quran shows more respect for Jesus than the Talmud.
My comment was not meant to be an exegesis, It was a simple comparison in response to the comment by ZE. which said :
“I” say we support Israel because the west is only second to the Jews in the neverending hatred of Islam.”
This comment is inflammatory and is inciting Christians to hatred resulting in evil.
So , getting back to the comparison between the Quran and the Talmud.
“Quran speaks highly of Jesus (Isa in Arabic). He is considered one of the greatest prophets and messengers of God. The Quran acknowledges his miraculous birth, his ability to perform miracles, and his role as a significant figure in Islamic teachings. Jesus is referred to as the Messiah and is highly respected in Islam.
The Quran does, however, reject the notion of Jesus being the son of God or part of a divine trinity. Instead, it emphasizes his humanity and his role as a prophet who conveyed God’s message to the people.”
The Talmud accuses Jesus of being a sorcerer who is now currently in hell. This is an absolute blasphemy and akin to blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and is far worse than what is said in the Quran.
Getting back to ZE.s comment
” I say we support Israel because the west is only second to the Jews in the neverending hatred of Islam.”
I don’t share this “neverending hatred of Islam.”
I see Islam as a false religion but I think these words as expressed by ZE are inflammatory and is the type of language which is used to stoke hatred against all Muslims. ZE is clearly attempting to generate hype through hatred in a mindless support for Israel.
This is the sort of language which causes Christians to support murder in the name of religion.
Let me say this.
God will hold us accountable should we support Christian Zionism, because it is false teaching and is leading so many Christians astray even to the point of supporting the slaughter of innocents. It is a sick doctrine which twists the scriptures resulting in a spiritual sickness of those embrace it. It is far more dangerous to the church than Islam, because Christians are not fooled by Islam but they are fooled by Christian Zionism .
My first concern is for Christ’s saints that they be kept in God’s truth and as you well know this has always been my emphasis on this site. Christian Zionism needs to be seen for the sickness that it is. It is a blight in the Christian church and is part of the apostasy which will lead to the revealing of the antichrist ‘man of sin’ sitting in the temple, posing as God.
The Christian Zionists want a temple to be built which we know will house the antichrist ‘man of sin’
They want, and have contributed to the restoration of blood sacrifices despite biblical teaching that God no longer wants such sacrifices.
“First he said, ‘Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them’—though they were offered in accordance with the law. Then he said, ‘Here I am, I have come to do your will.’ He sets aside the first to establish the second. And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.”
This passage shows that the sacrificial system of the Old Testament has been replaced by the perfect and ultimate sacrifice of Jesus Christ.
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Typo ‘ZE’ should read ‘SZ’
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S.Z. you misunderstood my comment. I was not saying that Americans hate Muslims. I was saying quite the opposite. After the Jews Islamists hate Americans and call us the great Satan.
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There is so much $$money to be made from the military industrial complex & the medical industrial complex. Are we still hoping for a president like George Washington, a Christian who did NOT get rich from being in office, and went back to being a farmer after the War of Independence ?
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Americans should not fear Jews or Muslims as much as they should fear both Christian and Jewish Zionists. It is the Zionists who have led to so many young American soldiers being killed in the Middle East in order to keep the Arab nations weak so that the Zionist State of Israel can become the greatest power of the middle east.
“Since 2001, over 7,000 U.S. service members have died in post-9/11 war zones, including Afghanistan and Iraq”
Trump wants no involvement in the Ukrainian war. He is focussed on the establishment of a totally Jewish State in Israel/Palestine under the rule of the Zionists. The Zionists are setting up a State from which the Antichrist will reign.
All regional opposition must be crushed. This includes IRAN which I believe will be a bloody war for America and where more American troops will be sent to die. And I believe that Trump will make this happen.
The frenzied Christian Zionists in America are in full support of a Zionist state in Israel and will happily see American soldiers killed in the process. They have been blinded by the ‘dispensationalist’ lie.
It should be obvious to anybody with clear thinking that the October massacre was done with the co-operation of the Israeli state who knew well in advance what the Hamas had planned to do. But they allowed this to happen and the army did not respond until after five hours of carnage of Israeli citizens at the hands of Hamas.
Just like 9/11, the precedent was now set for an offensive by the Zionists where they would harness the public outrage which they themselves had engineered. Netanyahu refuses to allow an inquiry into the October 7th massacre for as long as Israel is at war. This incentivises Netanyahu to continue a state of war regardless of how many casualties there are, on both sides.
Trump will be even more ferocious than Biden in his support of Zionist Israel and will continue to empty the American purse which has already spent “approximately $6.4 trillion on wars in the Middle East and Asia since 2001”
The Zionists have successfully hijacked American politicians and religious leaders who now slavishly support the Zionist agenda.
It’s laughable that so many people who claim to follow Jesus Christ are actually supporting the establishment of Satan’s throne on earth where the ‘Antichrist’ will sit, posing as God. The apostasy is well underway and will pave the way for the ‘Antichrist’ to sit in the temple posing as God in the Zionist State of Israel.
Ultimately the world is on course to a diabolical regime which will persecute and murder Christians. The Zionist State of Israel, already legislates against Christian Jews and continues to slaughter Christians in Gaza, yet Zionist Christians are happy to support this state.
So, I think that Americans should be far more concerned about what is happening in the Middle East than what is happening in Ukraine.
These are just some of my opinions for what they are worth.
P.S.
I believe that trump will initiate a pre-emptive strike against Iran, this year, followed by an all out war. Iran remains the only Muslim State which would be a serious obstacle to the Zionist agenda.
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Thanks for sharing your opinion Anthony. I really think this one statement will come back to haunt you:
“So, I think that Americans should be far more concerned about what is happening in the Middle East than what is happening in Ukraine.”
The truth is it’s all part of the same war and all very concerning.
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The truth is it’s all part of the same war and all very concerning.
Hello Leo , I agree. BUT!!
From the American perspective , the war in Ukraine is a proxy war which has little noticeable impact on the American people apart from the cost. But a war against Iran wont be a proxy war , in my opinion. I believe it will involve the deployment of American military.
What happens when young American soldiers are being shipped home in body bags, when the cost of American foreign policy is measured in blood and not just in dollars?
I believe that when Tump takes over, he will not delay ordering a pre-emptive strike against Iran.
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I agree with your comment about Iran, as that will be one theater in WWIII. Ukraine will also turn at some point from a proxy war to a direct war between Russia and NATO. It may be Europeans more than Americans who spill their blood in Ukraine-Russia but I suspect some Americans will die there, too, before it’s all said and done.
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Hello Leo . I believe that NATO will be abolished and replaced with a stronger European military.
Trump’s isolationist policies will achieve a polarisation between Europe and America. Trump’s divisive influence will find it’s way into almost all of his dealings with Europe and also, of course with China.
He poses as a nationalist but ultimately he will bring America to it’s needs.
Just my opinion , but I think you are correct about the Ukraine war becoming more than just a proxy war.
In Europe there are calls for increased military spending. It seems inevitable that a war between Russia and Europe will ensue
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I fear for your soul when you stand before our great and awesome Saviour! I’m so serious. Satan HATES Christians and Satan HATES Jews. He’s been trying to anialate Jews for 1000’s of years. Your siding with Satan. You don’t even realize it. Sure there are evil Jews..there are evil in every ethnicity and religion. Jesus has Jewish blood (Mary was His Jewish mother). The ENTIRE BIBLE is full of the Lord God saying He will turn their hearts back to Him & He will take out their heart of stone & give them a heart of flesh & when the ordinances of the sun, moon & stars perish then the seed of Israel will cease being a nation before Him…He will remember their sin no more etc etc etc etc. Read Jeremiah chap 31..Actually it’s ALL over the Bible. Be CAREFUL. I’m not trying to argue I just hope to keep you from being like the WHOLE world..hating Jesus’ brethren whom He loves. In Jesus, Christy
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Hello Christy, Satan hates everybody and he uses deception to bring souls to hell.
The deception of Islam is obvious to Christians, so we are not deceived by it.
But Muslims are people with souls and right now and are suffering terribly in Gaza
“The situation in Gaza is dire. According to recent reports, nearly 1.9 million people, or about 85% of Gaza’s population, have been displaced.”
It is winter in Gaza now and children are dying from hypothermia, and shrapnel wounds because their homes have been obliterated and the hospitals have been destroyed.
I don’t know if you are a parent, but can you imagine trying to comfort your children as bombs are dropped all around you.
He’s been trying to anialate Jews for 1000’s of years.
On the contrary, Satan needs the Jews in order to set up his Zionist State in Israel. It was God who caused the dispersion of the Jews in times past because of their disobedience.
Satan has hijacked Judaism and Christianity by introducing the false doctrine of Zionism.
Right now Satan needs to be rid of the Muslims because they are an obstacle to his plans to build a temple in Jerusalem for the antichrist ‘man of sin’ to sit in, posing as God.
Satan’s ‘man of sin’ will reign in Jerusalem and all the events which are unfolding in the middle east are leading to this scenario.
So, if you read the news you will notice that Satan is busy causing the genocide of the Palestinian people in Israel. The Zionist government colluded with Hamas leadership to bring about the Oct. 7 massacre in order to justify the genocide of the Palestinian people. The stated policy of Netanyahu’s ‘Likud’ party is to establish a totally Jewish State.
Satan has used the American and Israeli military to destroy and destabilise the Muslim countries in the middle east.
In Iraq hundreds of thousands of Iraqi people died as a result of sanctions and military operations by the Americans, not to mention the carnage and destruction caused in Syria ,Libya, Afghanistan etc.
So, if you do the Maths, you will see that the number of Muslims who have been killed in the ME far outnumbers the number of Jews who have been killed, not forgetting over forty thousand people killed in Gaza, alone, so far.
“Jesus has Jewish blood “
No he does not.
The reason for the miraculous conception of Jesus by the Holy Spirit was so that He would not be defiled by Adams blood. Did you know that after conception, not one drop of blood passes from the mother to the baby in her womb.
Jesus is the new Adam perfect and without blemish born of the Holy Spirit.
At this point in time Israel continues to reject Jesus Christ as the Messiah. They even legislate against Jewish Christians, such is their hatred for Christ.
I believe that God will once again turn his attention to Israel for their salvation, at which time, many Jews will come to accept Jesus Christ as their Messiah and Saviour and will have to suffer for their faith under persecution from the antichrist ‘man of sin’.
But it is a mistake to think that the current Israeli Zionist government has God’s blessing.
The true Zion is in heaven and Christ will not dwell on this earth again.
“But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly, to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven.”
Instead, the glorified Christ will dwell in the New Jerusalem which will descend from heaven and will be situated in the new earth, created by God, after this current will be destroyed. Jesus will reign from the New Jerusalem in a new earth with his glorified saints.
This current earth will be destroyed and will be replaced with a new earth created by God and fit for purpose for the glorified Christ and his glorified saints.
Peter says that we should be looking for new heavens and a new earth.
“13Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
Like so many others, you are putting the Jews on a moral pedestal because of their ethnicity, but if you read my other comments, you will see that Jesus Christ disagrees with your stance.
Christians should be focussed on Christ and not on an earthly Zion which is, in fact, the creation of Satan and which will not be blessed by God.
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Christy, you’re right on every point. When someone hates Jews and Christians who love and support the Jewish people and Israel, there’s a real heart issue. It’s called sin.
When someone can’t see their sin, even when repeatedly confronted about it by you and others, that’s spiritual blindness.
When they are unable to perceive their own blindness, they are living in bondage.
Hopefully the one you addressed your comments to gets delivered from their hatred before they take their last breath on this earth. Otherwise I would not want to be them when they stand before the Lion from the tribe of Judah, Yeshua Hamashiach.
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A Jew is one inwardly (Romans 2:28-29). The entire NT tells us over & over again that ethnicity has nothing to do with salvation.
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There is NO “genocide” in Gaza. So why have the”palestinians” (Arabs), population grown by 2%? It’s a fact. And btw, since when is any other nation that is ruthlessly attacked, are demanded to feed their enemies in war? Yet the Jews give them a ridiculous amount of food & Hamas steals it & sells it to the poor people, for whom it was intended, at exorbitant prices. My goodness, truth is hidden & lies abound. Some people are willingly blind. Only the Holy Spirit can open their hearts & eyes. Sigh.
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These headlines should be encouraging to all of us who hate globalist creations:
“The law is ‘not airtight’: Trump may have a way out of NATO”
– Politico, 11/08/24
“Why Trump’s 2nd withdrawal from the Paris Agreement will be different”
– Politico, 11/10/24
“The United Nations faces uncertainty as Trump returns to US presidency”
– AP News, 11/15/24
“Trump transition team plans immediate WHO withdrawal, expert says”
– Reuters, 12/23/24
It’s wonderful to hear that Trump will be pulling the U.S. out of WHO and the Paris Agreement as he did in his first term (and hopefully out of UNESCO again). With any luck he may even get us out of NATO, and there’s also a chance he might withdraw funding from the UN.
A populist president, he is anathema to the elites who want their new world order. Of course, they can still keep promoting their digital IDs and CBDCs in spite of him, because unfortunately, many nations see those as desirable and are getting onboard.
His plan for an end to the Ukraine war that was leaked and then rejected by Putin is his first attempt. Just as he finds the globalist cabals harmful, I think he sees the waste of precious lives and billions of dollars as horrendous and will make every effort to negotiate peace.
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By “leading nations” I mean governing. They have all sold us out.
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Leo:
While your pals over at The Gateway Pundit laud Deep State Donnie’s picks, I pick them apart. The Three Stooges, aka Waltz, Rubio and Stefanik are diametrically opposed to what Trump needs, that is IF Trumpy is who his cult following believe he is. How many people realize that Waltz made MILLONS bilking taxpayers in Afghanistan? And he is the National Security Advisor pick? Rubio and Stefanik should immediately and equally be distrusted based on their warmongering histories.
I’ll give Trumpy kudos for one thing, he has learned how to run cover for his loyalists. He knew Matt Gaetz would never fly as AG, and he also knew the House Ethics Committee was about to release their report. He then tabs Gaetz as his AG pick with ZERO qualifications, providing his escape ladder to exit Congress and block the release of the report because Congress no longer had jurisdiction. BOOM! The Deep State wins again as the report got leaked anyway. Trumpy didn’t really want Gaetz he wanted Pam Bondi, but how many people saw through the ruse? I did, how about you?
My suspicions may be even greater than yours. Trumpy didn’t support Speaker Johnson’s reappointment, now he does due to the political expediency. For those playing at home, remember it was Gaetz who jackhammered Kevin McCarthy into oblivion with his Motion to Vacate, thus earning the wrath and scorn of the Deep State. Why? Because McCarthy ran their playbook. All the other so-called contenders were not on the approved list. Did anyone really believe Jim Jordan stood a snowball’s chance in hades of being voted in as Speaker? What about the other pretenders? Nope. For those unfamiliar with swamp politics, Mike Johnson, who appeared out of NOWHERE was one of the short list sheep the Deep State would accept as Speaker. He was their boy then, he is their boy now.
Deep State Donnie has no choice but to support him. Without a Speaker there is no certification of the Electoral College. With no Speaker there is no third in line of succession. No certification plus no Speaker equals no President Trump; so say hello to Temporary President Senate Pro Tempore Chuck Grassley.
To those of you who believe Trumpy is coming back to restore the prosperity of his first term, sorry, you may be in for a horrifically rude awakening. The New World Order globalists want their war(s) and will stop at nothing to accomplish their agenda. We may have to swallow really hard and accept he may just be part of their plan.
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Regarding Biden, he funds Ukraine with the nod of congress, otherwise he would be removed from office, which there were/are no shortage of reasons.
Regarding Trump, obviously he either has trouble picking advisors and cabinet choices who do right by us, or he’s conning us, or viruses come in many shapes/sizes.
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Regarding Biden, he funds Ukraine with the nod of congress, otherwise he would be removed from office, which there were/are no shortage of reasons.
Regarding Trump, obviously he either has trouble picking advisors and cabinet choices who do right by us, or he’s conning us, or viruses come in many shapes/sizes.
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Oh my ! If 98% of Democrats and 80% of Republicans make up the “uniparty”, is it too late for any human being to pull a “peace rabbit” out of a hat ? …. just asking….. Personally, I am still connecting the dots from East to West and West to East. Turkey is part of NATO. China controls the current White House. Russia is not isolationist, having alliances and trade agreements with countries that …. are also part of the UN / WEF / WHO / Islamic block countries / kingdoms, etc. The global stage is set, folks. Then, enter stage right…. the technocrats, Elon & Vivek. Do voters really have a vote anymore ? ….. just asking…..
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Trump LIED, IMO. He changed his tune the day after the election. He Lied. Because his donors (the only constituency that counts in this country) want Iran attacked and laid to waste, just like we did to Iraq and now Syria. He WILL do that, because he’s a damn Zionist, his administration is fill with rabid Zio-nazis, and his path to regaining power was paid for by rabid Zio-nazis, like Mirian Adelson. He MUST fulfill their murderously imperialist demands or end up like JFK. (and watch—he will not release the rest of the JFK documents, either which would reveal all the evil players in that tragedy, the successors of whom are in power today).
The Ukraine project failed miserably, yet the warmongers (who have learned nothing) still want to hold on to the least bit of advantage (like having western “peacekeepers” and a Korean-like “cease-fire”) to keep things on a slow boil until the time is right to strike again. Of course, the Russians see through this and I hope they decisively end this war quickly to exclude that kind of pseudo-peace negotiation blather from the West.
The Ukraine war and the wars in the Middle East are closely related to each other. Both part of a grand strategy of a violently resurgent fascism, which unfortunately the US/UK are the active sponsors of. A shameful thing! This will not end well for anyone, but our bastard leaders could care less how many perish due to their machinations. How did we come to this?? I look back on the last 60 years and all I see is our slow and sure fall into a great evil. Surely Judgment is not far off.
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Support Israel or support Islam? No brainier for me. Israel doesn’t want to eliminate every non Muslim. I say we support Israel because the west is only second to the Jews in the neverending hatred of Islam.
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Who said ANYTHING about supporting Islam? I didn’t—you did. You made an assumption based on nothing. You have been taught that one MUST support Israel OR the only other choice is to support Islam. That’s a lie. Think outside the box you’ve put yourself into. There are other choices.
The state of Israel is not Judaism. It’s Zionism, which, when you study their political agendas, is every bit as bad as jihadi Islam. True Judaism follows the Tanakh (Old Testament—that contains the 10 Commandments. Especially that part that says “you shall not kill or murder, you shall not steal”–God’s laws totally ignored by the state of Israel today and its citizens). It’s totally lawless and what they are doing is horrible. So you’re ok with how Israel openly manipulates our government to serve their violent and genocidal agendas, because you’re scared of Islam?? Do you not know that the US has financed and armed these very evil jihadis to serve the interests of the US/Israel (as we see now in the destruction of Syria)? Someday there will be blowback from our stupidity and immorality, another 9/11.
You say “Israel doesn’t want to eliminate every non Muslim”–(so it’s ok to eliminate only some??)–then maybe they ought to stop doing just that. Quit deliberately murdering children with their snipers and drones, quit deliberately starving millions of people to death, quit bombing their hospitals and murdering their medical staffs, quit bombing schools, churches, mosques, homes into atoms and burying thousands in the rubble for the dogs to eat (which they do). They make NO distinction between Christians and muslims—they kill them all precisely because they’re not “Jews”. That’s the point of all this murder—to cleanse the Levant of non-Jewish presences. Because they want a racialist state of Jews only. And they openly say this and have said so for the last 100 years. The very same thing that Hitler said about making Germany/Europe “Judenfrei”. Are you not paying any attention?
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Israel just wants to live in peace. They react to the constant attacks by those that openly and constantly call for them to be driven into the sea. They have a tiny nation and are surrounded by a jealous people that go back to Abraham. They have provided free electricity to Gaza and medical help to Muslims. They have provided thousands of tons of food and aud to the people that attacked and murdered them while they slept. Israel didn’t ask for this war and Hamas is responsible for the misery their own people are living through. As far as the forced covid shots most other nations forced their citizens to take them also. Go after Australia if you want to know of the most brutal. How about China welding citizens in their apartments without food. Killing their pets so they wouldn’t try to walk them and no food would need to be delivered for pets. How about Biden paying huge amounts of money to hospitals for every American that DIED of covid and allowing only one medicine used to treat them which actually aided in killing them? Your President refused two medicines known to work on covid. Doctors that used them and saved patients were threatened with the loss of their licenses if they continued to use them. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. I fully support Israel.
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this false equivalent argument (a variation of the “you’re either with us or with the terrorists” canard) is the reason why Israel is the achilles heel of the entirety of the right’s new-found pretending that they want peace.
it is notable that the entire article above only ever addresses whether Ukraine will blow up; when the ME is at least as or MORE likely to be the WW3 flashpoint, given that its leaders, on both sides, are far more fragile and unstable – and guided by violent ideology rather than geo-strategic realities.
Unlike the doublespeak Trump and his admin have expressed about Ukraine, most all of them have been very open about their blind support for Israel, who will lead us down a path to ruin every bit as any other. They have happily lapped up all of the most absurd IC talking points about russia’s weakness, Iran’s meddling, and others.
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Leo Hohmann did at least one piece after the mRNA shots came out about how brutally PM Bibi Netanyahu treated the men, women and children of Israel. He forced nearly all to inject themselves with bioweapons with terrific threats and had no compassion for those who wound up crippled or killed. His own people.
I consider myself pro-Israel in that I think the nation has the right to exist. But I wouldn’t put it past their government to have let Hamas into Israel to kill many just to have a pretext for declaring a war and getting many of both groups killed.
2020 showed me how corrupt nearly all those leading nations are. This Israeli government is no exception.
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In my country Jews and Muslims live in peace and cause each other no trouble. Most Jews and Muslims just want to live in peace when given the opportunity.
But in the ME the Muslim countries have been devastated by the ongoing destructive forces of the Zionists and their allies including America and Britain.
When you do the numbers you will see that the vast majority of violent deaths have been of Muslims at the hands of the allies.
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After the terrorists attacked Israel. You forgot that part. Then they use civilians as human shields to hide behind and scream foul when civilians are killed. Leave Israel alone and they’ll leave Muslims alone. Stop being proxies for Iran while they live safely in their homes
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S Zsays:
Jan 1, 2025 at 12:17 am
“Israel just wants to live in peace.”
I think you should read up on the history of the Zionist State of Israel and how they displaced the Palestinians from their lands and livelihoods and then imprisoned them in open air prisons such as Gaza which became one of the most densely populated areas in the world.
To regard feeding the people who’s land they’ve confiscated as a badge of honour shows a lack of understanding
Read up on the savagery of the settlers who burn down children’s schools in the West Bank and destroy the crops of Palestinian farmers and drive Palestinians off their land.
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there is no “Palestine”. A Roman named Hadrian named it Palestinia because he hated the Jews and wanted to erase them. When the Jews were forced out of the land of Israel in 70AD by the Romans they dispersed to every country in the world just as God said would happen. Arabs moved into the land of Israel where it became a desolation. In the 1800’s some Jews started returning. After WW2 the Jews were allowed to return to their homeland (given to them by God as an everlasting home) where they paid exorbitant prices to buy land. Since then more and more have returned, again as prophesied in the Bible. God said He would call them back to their land. The temple will be rebuilt as prophesied. Their enemies will “be destroyed on the mountains of Israel” as prophesied in Ezekiel 38-39. A terrible time is coming for the Jews but they will never be driven from their land again. “The God of Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps.”
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The Jews were driven off the land because they rejected the Messiah. They have not repented of this. They continue to reject the Messiah.
Jesus said to the Jews
37O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord
God left the temple and had it destroyed but the Zionists in their arrogance are determined to build a new temple which will house the ‘antichrist’ ‘man of sin’.
Christian Zionists are supporting a return to old testament blood sacrifices which God has rejected.
The scriptures are clear that the abomination of desolation will stand in the holy place and that the man of sin will sit in the temple claiming to be God. This will be the time when the desolation reaches it’s conclusion.
The man of sin will reign right up to Christs coming and then he will be destroyed. Christ’s coming marks the beginning of the destruction of this world as described by Peter.
Christ will not dwell on this earth again. Instead he will reign with his glorified saints in a new earth.
“10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
There will not be a temple in the new Jerusalem.
“And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.”
I believe that God will turn his attention to Israel in the future. But I believe that this will be evidenced by many Jews accepting Jesus Christ and his finished work on the cross, ie., they will become Christians and they will suffer along with gentile Christians during the reign of the antichrist ‘man of sin’.
As Christians we have no right to hate Muslims or to wish suffering upon them.
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God promised to return the Jews to their land from every nation to which they were driven. They are still returning and Indeed have “from every nation to which they were scattered” including America. He will take a remnant “through the fire and refine then.” They will finally “believe in Him whom they have pierced” when He returns at Armageddon. They will serve Him in His temple in Jerusalem. There is no replacement of the Jews by gentiles. I don’t need to defend Israel. God Himself does and will continue to the end. “Israel is the apple of God’s eye. He says until the sun, the moon and the stars forget to shine Israel will be His people. That’s it, I’m done. Genesis to Revelation when the Bible says Israel that’s exactly what God means. It’s not a code name for any other people to deny God’s plan for the Jews.
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“Genesis to Revelation when the Bible says Israel that’s exactly what God means. It’s not a code name for any other people to deny God’s plan for the Jews.”
I would remind you of :
Roman 9:6-8
“For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.
Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, ‘It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.’ In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.”
The children of promise are those who are born of God’s Spirit. This includes a remnant in the nation of Israel and a remnant in the professing Christian church.
This remnant of true believers are evidenced by a genuine faith in Jesus Christ.
“11He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.”
With regard to your hatred for Islam:
Islam has it’s faults but we should acknowledge that the Koran shows great respect to Jesus Christ hailing him as the Messiah.
On the other hand the Talmud contains blasphemies against Christ and ridicule against Christ’s followers.
The Talmud also contains the oral traditions and interpretations which Jesus criticised, because they were being used to nullify the commandments of God.
With regard to Ezekiel’s prophecy of Israel’s return, I would point out that since Ezekiel’s prophecy, Israel returned and rebuilt the temple. This happened during the reign of Darius. So, Israel returned and rebuilt the temple about 49 years after Ezekiel’s last prophecy.
The promises of God are often conditional on Israel’s obedience. But, as we know, Israel did not continue in obedience and ultimately rejected the Messiah and persecuted his followers.
Israel continues to mistreat followers of Christ where Christian Jews are legislated against because of their faith in Jesus Christ.
However for the remnant’s sake God will not utterly forsake Israel. In Romans 11 Paul tells us that God will in the future turn his attention towards Israel.
But for now Israel is partially blind and will remain so, until the fulness of the gentiles comes in.
“blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:”
My understanding when I read this passage is that Israel will be delivered at Christ’s second coming which is when the rapture happens.
I believe that the restoration of Israel will happen when the remnant of Israel and the remnant of the professing Christian church share in the new heavens and the new earth which God will create for the true children of Abraham, i.e., those born of God’s Holy Spirit, both Jew and gentile.
But make no mistake. The heavens and this earth will be destroyed at Christ’s coming. He will not dwell on this earth again. Instead he will reign with his glorified saints in a new earth created by God.
Peter says that we should be looking for new heavens and a new earth .
“13Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
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OK, I rarely, as you know, weigh in on these squabbles, but you said something in this comment Anthony that is a deceptive lie from the pit of hell. It was this:
“Islam has it’s faults but we should acknowledge that the Koran shows great respect to Jesus Christ hailing him as the Messiah.”
Yes, Islam believes a man named Jesus walked the earth and they believe he was an Islamic prophet pointing the way to their greater false prophet Muhammad and ultimately to their false god Allah, but they vehemently refute that Jesus was the Son of God, that he was in anyway divine, or that he died for our sins paving the way for us to have eternal life in heaven. They also deny the existence of the Trinity. Their Quran also attributes end-times qualities to this “messiah” or “christ” that sound eerily similar to what our Holy Bible describes as the “anti-christ.” The Islamic Jesus will return in the last days to “break the cross” and tell the world that Christians were lying about him all this time because he was/is not the son of God, just a prophet and then a lower prophet than Muhammad! In short, they deny every major tenet of Christian belief, so for you to make a statement like the one I highlighted above is total deception on your part, whether intentional or not. Anthony, you have just mouthed an Islamic interfaith talking point that has been used by Satan to deceive Christians and draw them into an error that results in a compromise of their faith. If not exposed, this lie places Islam and Muhammad in a superior position spiritually to Jesus Christ and Christianity. This borders on blaspheming the Holy Spirit and will not be allowed on this humble website.
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Hello Leo , I have said before on this forum that Islam is a false religion. So, I’m not claiming that Islam is based on sound doctrine. I was simply replying to a comment which was inciting hatred.
I was drawing a comparison between the writings of the Quran and the writings of the Talmud.
I am saying that by comparison, the Quran shows more respect for Christ than the Talmud.
BTW the term “break the cross” is found in the Hadith and not in the Quran.
The Hadith also mentions Dajjal who will appear before the Day of Judgment, performing miracles to deceive people and claiming to be the Messiah2.
Dajjal is described as a deceiver who will lead many astray, and his emergence is considered one of the major signs of the end times. He will be defeated by Jesus (Isa in Arabic), who will return to restore justice and truth”
As Christians on this site we all know that Islam is a false religion, so I don’t think my comparison between the Koran and the Talmud is going to cause somebody here to convert to Islam.
In fact the volume of my comment gives great clarity concerning who are the true people of God which I clearly said, included both Jews and gentiles who are born of the Holy Spirit as opposed to those who are born of the flesh.
But neither the Quran or the Hadith stoop so low as to describe Jesus being punished in the afterlife by being boiled in excrement as stated in the Talmud. The Talmud also accuses Christ of practising sorcery which is akin to the blasphemy committed by the Pharisees when they accused Jesus of being in league with the devil when he cast out devils.
I will finish by saying that it was not the Muslims who had Jesus crucified. It was not the Muslims to whom Jesus said
“you are of your father the devil”
The point I am trying to make to Christian Zionists is that being a Jew does not make a person a child of God.
The Christian Zionists wrongly set Jews on a pedestal based on their ethnicity and then use this to justify and support the atrocities being committed by the Israeli Zionists and settlers.
So, I think you are reading more into my comment than what I stated and I hope this comment will give some clarity.
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Again, you only present half the truth. You cannot say that “by comparison, the Quran shows more respect for Christ than the Talmud.” That is a clever mind game, a deception, because it’s like saying the Italian mafia is better than the Chinese mafia, or the Nazis are better than the Communists. But even if your false comparison were taken at face value, what could be worse than presenting a false christ who refutes almost everything about the true Christ and then holding him up as somehow laudable! Please.
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Hello Leo , I think it is you who are playing mind games. You took my mention of the Quran and you then quoted from the Hadith in order to misrepresent what I had said.
I believe that by comparison , the Quran shows more respect for Jesus than the Talmud.
My comment was not meant to be an exegesis, It was a simple comparison in response to the comment by SZ. which said :
“I” say we support Israel because the west is only second to the Jews in the neverending hatred of Islam.”
This comment is inflammatory and is inciting Christians to hatred resulting in evil.
So , getting back to the comparison between the Quran and the Talmud.
“Quran speaks highly of Jesus (Isa in Arabic). He is considered one of the greatest prophets and messengers of God. The Quran acknowledges his miraculous birth, his ability to perform miracles, and his role as a significant figure in Islamic teachings. Jesus is referred to as the Messiah and is highly respected in Islam.
The Quran does, however, reject the notion of Jesus being the son of God or part of a divine trinity. Instead, it emphasizes his humanity and his role as a prophet who conveyed God’s message to the people.”
The Talmud accuses Jesus of being a sorcerer who is now currently in hell. This is an absolute blasphemy and akin to blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and is far worse than what is said in the Quran.
Getting back to SZ.s comment
” I say we support Israel because the west is only second to the Jews in the neverending hatred of Islam.”
I don’t share this “neverending hatred of Islam.”
I see Islam as a false religion but I think these words as expressed by SZ are inflammatory and is the type of language which is used to stoke hatred against all Muslims. SZ is clearly attempting to generate hype through hatred in a mindless support for Israel.
This is the sort of language which causes Christians to support murder in the name of religion.
Let me say this.
God will hold us accountable should we support Christian Zionism, because it is false teaching and is leading so many Christians astray even to the point of supporting the slaughter of innocents. It is a sick doctrine which twists the scriptures resulting in a spiritual sickness of those embrace it. It is far more dangerous to the church than Islam, because Christians are not fooled by Islam but they are fooled by Christian Zionism .
My first concern is for Christ’s saints that they be kept in God’s truth and as you well know this has always been my emphasis on this site. Christian Zionism needs to be seen for the sickness that it is. It is a blight in the Christian church and is part of the apostasy which will lead to the revealing of the antichrist ‘man of sin’ sitting in the temple, posing as God.
The Christian Zionists want a temple to be built which we know will house the antichrist ‘man of sin’
They want, and have contributed to the restoration of blood sacrifices despite biblical teaching that God no longer wants such sacrifices.
“First he said, ‘Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them’—though they were offered in accordance with the law. Then he said, ‘Here I am, I have come to do your will.’ He sets aside the first to establish the second. And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.”
This passage shows that the sacrificial system of the Old Testament has been replaced by the perfect and ultimate sacrifice of Jesus Christ.
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That was and honest mistake (me quoting a Hadith and assigning it to the Quran) and not one that is relevant to the debate. The Hadiths are still considered part of the inspired scriptures of Islam and so my point still stands. I do not condone any hatred of Muslims, Christians or Jews, or any other people, on this site. But I absolutely do hate any false religious teachings, which includes Islam and segments of Judaism and even false Christian teachings like the pre-trib rapture. To say you don’t share a hatred of Islam tells me a lot about your belief structure. We should love Muslims but hate the Islamic doctrines that send these poor folks to hell in droves.
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I’m speaking in context of the hatred for Islam as espoused by SZ which by association leads to hatred of all Muslims. I refuse to share in this mindless hatred.
You say
“We should love Muslims but hate the Islamic doctrines that send these poor folks to hell in droves.”
Your comment is fair and balanced where you distinguish between Islam and the people who believe in it.
I can safely agree with you on this .
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S Z – “Israel doesn’t want to eliminate every non Muslim. I say we support Israel because the west is only second to the Jews in the neverending hatred of Islam…Israel just wants to live in peace. They react to the constant attacks by those that openly and constantly call for them to be driven into the sea.”
What you’re saying is true and I’ve expressed the same here and on other websites. The wall of resistance I’ve met (and which you have too) is due to several factors. One of those is a lack of understanding of the existential wars Israel has been forced into by bloody jihadists. People who live in Western countries have no clue what it’s like to have missiles launched at them from several directions by cultures bent upon annihilation, and to endure decades of shootings, suicide bombings, knifings, and car rammings perpetrated by genocidal neighbors.
Another really unfortunate factor is blindness to antisemitism lurking within the heart. My experience has been that many people who demonize Israel and Israelis refuse to acknowledge their hatred of God’s chosen people, even when confronted about it repeatedly by others. Whether they realize it or not, they perform a role as echo chambers for radical Islam’s Jew-hating propaganda. The sentiment behind their words is no different from that in the Hamas charter or any other jihadist manifesto. The harm they do is irreparable because words have consequences. In this case, they are fuel thrown onto the fire of antisemitic attacks, which have skyrocketed since the massacre of Israelis on Oct. 7th. Many Jews now are afraid to wear clothing in public that identifies them.
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@ SZ “there is no “Palestine”. A Roman named Hadrian named it Palestinia because he hated the Jews and wanted to erase them.”
Hmmm, using your logic would mean that there is no ‘America’ .
who gave america it’s name
The name “America” comes from the Italian explorer Amerigo Vespucci. “
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