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1. For over 2,000 years, many Christians have paid the ultimate price for their faith. The worst of it is yet to come, because they will be facing the wrath of a world leader if they refuse to take a global ID signifying allegiance to him. As we get closer to the rise of this person, the hatred toward followers of Jesus will intensify.

   The World Watch List issued by the Open Doors ministry is an annual ranking of the 50 countries where Christians today experience the most extreme persecution.

   The 2024 List cited 317 million Christians as facing “very high or extreme levels” and contained these statistics for this year so far: 4,998 Christians were murdered; 14,766 churches and Christian properties were attacked; 4,125 Christians were detained.

   On their map of the 50 worst countries, the 10 with the most severe persecution are ranked as follows:

   1. North Korea

   2. Somalia

   3. Libya

   4. Eritrea

   5. Yemen

   6. Nigeria

   7. Pakistan

   8. Sudan

   9. Iran

   10. Afghanistan

   Although the opposition to Christians in this country has been more of a soft persecution, the following events that we’ve heard about in the news point to sinister trends among people in high places:

   FBI spying upon orthodox Catholics. The FBI’s Richmond Field Office coordinated with multiple FBI field offices across the country to monitor Catholics who felt a need to return to more traditional beliefs and worship. One result was a January 23 memo that used the highly charged rhetoric of radical-traditionalist Catholic ideology, citing it as a potential security threat.

   A report from the Portland field office described contact with indirect access who informed on a deceased [Racially or Ethnically Motivated Violent extremist (RMVE)] subject who had “sought out a mainline Roman Catholic community” and then gravitated to [Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX)].

   Government authorities asking banks to report purchases of Bibles. The U.S. Treasury Department, on behalf of federal law enforcement, asked banks to search customer transactions that included terms like “MAGA” and “Trump” as well as purchases of guns, ammo, and religious texts like Bibles. In doing this, the government has spread the net of “violent extremists” to include all Christians, Catholics or Protestants, who read the scriptures.   

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   1. Another trend to watch: In addition to demonizing orthodox Catholics as “radical traditionalists,” there are distorted characterizations of Protestant evangelicals as “white Christian nationalists.” 

      Bradley Onishi, a lecturer in religious studies from a secularist view, is a self-described former Christian nationalist. His book, “Preparing for War: The Extremist History Of White Christian Nationalism” claims that this nationalism is rooted in white supremacy, segregation, and violence, and he paints it as an existential threat to democracy. A synopsis of the book on Amazon reads: 

      “The insurrection at the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, was not a blip or an aberration. It was the logical outcome of years of a White evangelical subculture’s preparation for war…How did the rise of what Onishi calls the New Religious Right, between 1960 and 2015, give birth to violent White Christian nationalism during the Trump presidency and beyond? …Onishi pulls back the curtain on a subculture that birthed a movement and has taken a dangerous turn.”

      Onishi was interviewed by NPR host Terry Gross last winter (“Tracing the rise of Christian nationalism, from Trump to the Alabama Supreme Court” February 29, 2024). At one point, Gross asked him if the opinion of Chief Justice Tom Parker of the Alabama Supreme Court, which outlawed the destruction of frozen embryos used in fertility treatments, was “an example of Christian nationalism.” She mentioned that Justice Parker equated it to murder and frequently referenced God.      

      Onishi’s response: “So this is an example of Christian nationalism par excellence.” He criticized the opinion because it was based upon “the Bible” and “Christian manifestos” and he went on to fume, “The very idea that we would have a Supreme Court of any state in this country who would deliver an opinion based on the Bible, is the most clear example of Christian nationalism that I can think of.”

      By dragging the judge’s decision into the realm of a supposedly dark, dangerous “Christian nationalism,” Onishi is also portraying the Bible as somehow subversive. But people like him and others on the left are blind to the fact that their own ideology is a religion that they seek to thrust upon everyone, while usurping the free speech of others in order to stifle any opposition. Maybe they will soon add our founding fathers to the list of dangerous “extremists” because they had some things to say about the Bible, faith, and government.

      “One’s god dictates the kind of law one implements and also controls the application and development of that law over time. Given enough time, all non-Christian systems of law self-destruct in a fit of tyranny.”

      George Washington

      “The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: it connected in one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity.”

      John Quincy Adams

      “The only means of establishing and perpetuating our republican forms of government is the universal education of our youth in the principles of Christianity by means of the Bible.”

      Benjamin Rush

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   2. Add the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (UOC) to the list. It was officially banned August 20 by Zelensky with the connivance of the globalist Orthodox Church of Ukraine (OCU), the globalist Patriarch Bartholomew of Constantinople and the Biden Administration. Many of the UOC clergy are already imprisoned or sent to the front to get killed. Many of their churches have been confiscated or despoiled. The UOC is the true and canonical Orthodox church; the OCU is a western-financed schismatic church that has taken on many anti-Christian teachings and practices. The schism (which was violent) started in earnest in 2014 at the time of the US color revolution and contributed to the start of the war between Russia and Ukraine.

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2. And I will just finish by saying, either God is in control of your will, or else you believe that you are in control of your will. Which will it be?

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   1. To any Christian reading this , let me say that we certainly do have a free will but our free will is subject to the overall will of God.

      Here’s my understanding:

      Jesus said, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
      So, when does this new birth happen?. It happens when God the father takes the initiative and draws us to Jesus Christ.

      Jesus said that no man can come unto the Son unless the Father draw him.

      We have been chosen in Christ from before the foundation of the world. So, the decision to be a born again was not ours it began with God and was manifest in us at the time of God’s choosing.

      So, how does the father do this
      He causes us to be born again through the washing and regeneration of the Holy Spirit.

      I believe that this is what Christ was referring to when he said :

      “Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God”

      It is the newly regenerated man who begins calling on Christ in true faith.

      So from God’s perspective He has begun a new work in us which influences the choices we make.
      And from our perspective we discover a new faith in Christ and his teaching.

      We now have two natures in us . We have the old carnal nature which is self centred and we have the new spiritual nature which loves God.

      God doesn’t want to be worshipped by mindless, robots. He wants a relationship with us where there’s interaction and reasoning.
      This means that , having saved us God allows us to continue having a have a free will.

      For me ,as a Christian The hardest part of having a free will is that I can still sin and grieve God’s Holy Spirit. I feel grieved when I sin because the new man in me is born of God and is not happy when I sin.

      Paul says “O wretched man that I am” as the new nature in him wrestles with the old .

      Although we are part of the body of Christ we still have our own individual personalities because we still have a heart and a soul with which to act on our own free will.

      It is through having a free will that God tests us.

      In life we have to make hard choices between what we want and what God wants.
      This may mean losing friends or even a job etc., or on a simpler level it may mean getting rid of our favourite albums or giving up bad habits etc.

      This can be very difficult for some Christians. But without having a free will we could not be tested because we ‘would be incapable of making bad choices.

      So, to conclude I am saying that we have a free will but our free will is subject to the overall will of God who sets parameters for us as we continue our pilgrimage on this earth with it’s trials and temptations.

      “A man’s heart deviseth his way: but the LORD directeth his steps.” (Proverbs 16:9)

      Anybody who thinks that they have no free will had better admit to being akin to being a robot with no mind of their own.

      Perhaps they have been radicalised !!

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      1. We are to have the mind of Christ. I don’t want a mind of my own, because that causes me to sin. “Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus.”

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      2. But Unibokk, I will give you credit for at least having a partial understanding of predestination and election as described in your post above. You used some of the very best scriptures to describe the sovereignty of God In determining the salvation of His elect from before the foundation of the world. For that, I give you full credit. Very well spoken. But How on earth you can throw man’s freewill in there after quoting scriptures that prove God is really in control is a bit puzzling. I must admit that I struggled with that when I was in high school because being young and ignorant, I felt like I was in control. Until one day a pastor set me straight. He said, “the question is not why did God choose to save some and not others. The question is, why did God choose to save anybody at all, because we all deserve to go to hell?” This is the fundamental misunderstanding of man that differentiates between those who are elect and those who are not. Those who are elect have been given the understanding that they are complete sinners, including their will, and as a result, they believe that they are deserving of hell. While those who don’t believe that they are sinners believe that God would be unjust in sending them to hell. I’ll give you credit where credit is due.

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      3. Hello Jay

         You say, “I don’t want a mind of my own”

         Let me begin by saying that Philippians 2:5 Is referring to Christ’s humility. It is In this context that Paul is speaking. Paul is encouraging the Philippians to be humble minded like Jesus who although he was God was willing to humble himself by becoming a man for our sakes.

         In Isaiah 1:18 God says “Come let us reason together” This shows that God wants a meaningful dialogue with his people. This requires us to have our own mind with which we can reason with God.

         Of course we are being conformed to be like Jesus but this process requires us to have our sense of reason and to be self aware. If we don’t have our own mind then we are unable to be reasoned with, and we have no sense of self awareness with which to feel and respond to God or to others.

         The mindlessness you desire is dangerous and self destructive and I can see from your comments that your ability to reason is shredded. You seem to be hyped to the point of being unable to reason.

         This is dangerous and you need to seek help or at least remove yourself from whatever influences which may be causing your current state of mind.

         I hope you find this comment helpful.

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      4. I could also say that you are dangerous, need to seek help and should quit being radicalized by false teachers. But that would just be more cheap shots to avoid discussing the truth.

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      5. Hello Jay my comment was out of genuine concern.
         If you don’t have free will and you don’t have your own mind, then there can be no, you. You will have ceased to be a human being.
         People who have lost their own mind become subhuman and unable to function. You’ll find such people in the loony bin and you’d be surprised at how many of them are deeply religious.
         So, I’m not having a cheap shot at you. This is way too serious for banter. I’m just cautioning you for your own sake. If my concern is unwarranted then I apologise, I was only trying to help.

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3. I’ll finish with this.

   Satan has gone to great lengths to promote the false doctrines of ‘dispensationalism’ and Zionism in the Christian church

   through books , film, and the many videos pumped out by his false prophets.

   So, why would Satan bother to put such effort into promoting dispensationalism and Zionism? because after all, it’s not a salvation matter, say the false teachers who promote it.

   Answer:

   Satan has used ‘dispensationalism to destroy the testimony of the evangelical church. He has used these false doctrines to politicize and radicalise the evangelical church.

   We now have an apostate church whose members are falling over themselves to support and promote the Satanic Zionist State which calls itself Israel and which flies the Rothchild inspired hexagram as a symbol for the their nation.

   The Jews originally wanted a menorah as the symbol of the nation but Rothchild insisted on the hexagram. The hexagram can mean different things but in the hands of Rothchild, I believe it has a sinister meaning.

   We see Zionist Christians breeding red heifers and sending them to Israel so that blood sacrifices can be restored n order to expedite the building of a temple which Paul says will house the ‘man of sin’

   They are supporting a return to old testament sacrifices which is a rejection of Christ’s eternally efficacious sacrifice on Calvary.

   So, we have the irony of Christian evangelicals breaking bread today in memory of Christ’s sacrifice when deep in their radicalised hearts they are hoping for a return to old testament sacrifices and rituals and a temple which has been rebuilt in defiance of God who has left the old temple and had it destroyed.

   The irony doesn’t stop there though, does it.

   In the radicalised dispensationalists mind, Israel must have it’s temple even if it means slaughtering 40,000 Palestinian people, mostly women and children, as the displacement of the Palestinian people continues in preparation for a totally Jewish State and the building of a new temple with none of those pesky Moslems left in the country to oppose it.

   With the help of Christian Zionists, American policy has been shaped to serve the Zionist ideal. Biden refers to himself as a Zionist and Trump is a huge supporter of the Zionist State. Trump relies on the evangelical vote and will therefore promote evangelical Zionist values

   Satan’s radicalised army are serving him with such zeal, they are even willing to commit murder by proxy, and all in the name of Christ.

   Satan must be ecstatic.

   Some of you reading my comment may try to deflect by pointing to radicalised Moslems but two wrongs don’t make a right. I know that there are Moslems who have also been radicalised.

   But this is a Christian site and so I am reaching out to you as I seek to address the problems which face the church within.

   Some Christians show a worrying inability to think logically, even when they are presented with the facts as has been the case here with Revelation 3:10

   I am asking you to look at yourself and to ask yourself this question:

   Have I been radicalised ??

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   1. The devil doesn’t have to go to great lengths to promote false doctrines because he has plenty of willfully ignorant people like you that can look a scripture verse such as Revelation 3:10 right in the eye and then tell everybody that it doesn’t really mean what it says. And then you turn right around and use the devils terms, “ such as RADICALIZ-d” to describe anyone who believes what the Bible says. I thought that term was reserved for those that oppose the leftist Democrat agenda, but it would appear that you have single-handedly expanded it to include those who believe the Bible.

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      1. You need to seek help.

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4. Many of us who follow Bible prophecy like to compare the similarities between the signs of the end of the age that Jesus gave to His disciples in the Olivet Discourse and current events. The book of Revelation is even more comprehensive in giving us details of the last days that align with current plans for a global government, ID, and financial system.

   But some signs Jesus gave to His disciples have been neglected due to the emphasis upon the “wars and rumors of war,” “signs in the heavens,” etc. and they are these:

   “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another.”

   Matthew 24:9-10

   I believe that hermeneutics, exegesis, and presentations of viewpoints on eschatology are important and always good for trying to get a clear understanding of scriptures. Unfortunately in the past bloody history of the Church, doctrinal differences between factions of believers could get you beaten, expelled from your home and nation, or burned at the stake.

   There are followers of Christ now on the other side of the world who are dying for their faith at the hands of non-Christians, not because they’re pre-, mid-, or post-tribbers or dispensationalists vs anti-dispensationalists but simply because of their love for Jesus.

   If those of us who live in freedom now start experiencing this same persecution, I have a feeling that all these squabbles over who’s right or wrong concerning the Rapture, Millennial Kingdom and so on will not even matter. Protestants and Catholics who have true faith In Christ will have to let animosities fade away and unite with one another. When things get tough, we aren’t going to be asked by enforcers of the beast system who hold a gun to our head, “Where do you stand on the timing of the Rapture, “ but rather “Are you a follower of Jesus Christ?” 

   So while I’ve participated in debates here and on other websites and will continue to do so, I would encourage all of us to also focus on those scriptures that will help strengthen, prepare, and grow us in our faith in God’s promises that He’ll never leave us or forsake us, no matter what happens.                

                  

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   1. Well stated Anna. And very true. Debating the finer points of eschatology is a luxury many Christ followers are not familiar with!

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      1. Leo – “…the finer points of eschatology…”

         Or dying for.

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5. The dispensationalist/anti-dispensationalist argument is strictly a Protestant conflict–mostly an American Protestant thing. That should tell everyone here something. That the issue does not represent all of Christianity. That even within Protestant Christianity there is no agreement with each other. And yes, there are false teachings about this. Meanwhile, the acrimony and put-downs displayed by both sides here to force one belief of another does NOT present a flattering picture of Protestant Christianity. Instead, it shows how much spiritual growth is needed.

   This issue is not argued in the historical churches, such as Catholic and Orthodox, although they certainly study eschatology, too and have written some great literature on it. Rapture or non-Rapture, or the timing of the Rapture before or after the Great Tribulation is a non-issue. The emphasis with them (and you also can see it in the chronological progression of St. Paul’s letters) is NOT on the End Times, but these times—the present–and how we the Church should live in it. Because good times or bad, we are admonished live through all of it in purity and joyfulness, witnessing to the glory of God.

   Nevertheless, “apocalyptism” is heard everywhere in these uncertain and violent days. Same thing happened around 1000 AD—a very anxious time about whether the End would come then. We now are certainly at the end of an age (always a wobbly affair in history) but whether or not these are the “End Times” immediately preceding the 2nd Coming is very questionable. Even Jesus himself didn’t know when he would return again (Matthew 24:36 and Mark 13:32).

   We don’t even know the date of our own death (which would be the end of the world personally for us), but each of us are told to prepare our souls to meet God. What are we each doing about that? Spending our time attacking every evil of our day? Arguing with other Christians endlessly over the future? We get many messages to resist and crusade against evil—but what exactly makes any of us superior to the secularists who battle, in their own way, evil and suffering too? Even communists have an eschatology. The difference is this: secularists see all suffering as evil and fear it, and so devise some form of totalitarianism (and its enslaving technology like digital IDs) to deal with it. But where we differ from them is that we are told in the Bible to NOT TO FEAR SUFFERING “Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience. But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.” (James 1:3-4) “These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.” (John 16:33) We really should be strengthening ourselves together in God, not tearing each other apart. Or parading a smugness that we may escape tribulations altogether. There was a cross for Christ; there will be one of each of us sometime in our lifetimes. How we accept this and what we do with it NOW within ourselves is the real task before us. Our purpose in Christ here is not to face the darkness, but the Light and thereby be the light for this world. We can’t do that if we don’t resist evil within ourselves and grow together in Christ.

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   1. If you just like to suffer, I’m sure that can be arranged. That’s like telling your parents that you’re bored. They’ll put you to work. But I have to ask, if you aren’t suffering enough now, why aren’t you. Some of us have done our share of it already and need a break. If you want to suffer, go preach on the street corner or hand out Gospel tracts, or get active in standing against the evil all around you. You won’t have to look hard to find the suffering you think we should all be doing and you don’t have to wait for the tribulation to do it either. I don’t know where you have been all this time, but if you are waiting around for Catholics and other religions that wear their collars backwards while spreading holy smoke and holy water around during their ceremonies to discuss Bible Prophecy, then you’re gonna be waiting a long time. Get with the program man and do your share of suffering.

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   2. Meanwhile I will contend for the faith. I will follow in the footsteps of Christ and his apostles. Who exposed false teaching and who gave much time to teaching about eschatology as is evidenced by Christ’s Olivet discourse which takes up 96 verses in Mathew’s gospel not to mention Paul’s letters to the Thessalonians +.

      Peace in the church is an ideal. But when so called Christians spread dangerous doctrine then it must be challenged. I’ve explained in previous comments why dispensationalism is so dangerous and why it must be opposed.

      Peace in the church would be ideal but we should not seek peace at any cost.

      Christians throughout history have died for contesting for the faith most notably at the hands of the Roman Catholic church, who, whilst claiming to be Christian , set about torturing and murdering the true Christians.

      The apostate church is bearing a false testimony. It cannot be considered to be light for the world. Instead, it is happy to spread the devil’s lies. If you are happy to embrace it for the sake of peace then what does that say.

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      1. Unibokk–

         I will respond to you because we’ve had some good exchanges and share some views. I understand your position on dispensationalism and why you feel you must contest it. I don’t quarrel with that.

         But neither you, and most particularly not Jay, understood what I said above. My apologies if I didn’t say it well enough.

         But step outside your debates for a moment and see the way you’ re doing it. What spirit you both bring to it and ask why is that spirit present. Something better is needed or “contending for the faith” gets lost in mere acrimony and nothing is accomplished.

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6. Wow. A lot of discord here. Let me make it simple. The Tribulation period is stated by Daniel to be the “Time of Jacob’s Trouble”.

   Jacob is Israel. The “Tribulation’ is uniquely a Jewish event where Christ gets busy (again) with the ‘apple of His eye’, His ‘Chosen people’, then ‘all Israel shall be saved”. The church has no business there, it is reserved for Jews only; so, like God removed Noah and his family (the then church) from the destruction He brought on the whole world, God removes the church, His Bride, from His coming judgments and ensuing destruction. (Scripture states that some 5 billion will die in that 7 years).

   God would not allow His Son to ‘beat up’ His Bride before the wedding, and neither would the Son desire such.

   Jesus comes to ‘fetch His Bride’ ( in my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and RECEIVE YOU UNTO MYSELF; that where I am, there ye may be also. And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know”. John 14:2-6

   Rapture………………..We go to Him !

   Second Coming….He comes down, every eye shall see Him, (that’s everyone in the entire world), He sets His foot on Mount Moriah, and it splits in two making a huge valley. He sets up His Millenium Kingdom on the ancient throne of King David in Jerusalem. (If you don’t know this, you haven’t read your Bible. Ya gotta read it all, ya know).

   Not so complicated, eh? 🙂

   Rev. Roy…………<><

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   1. That’s the best explanation I’ve heard so far. Short and sweet and easy to understand. Thank you!

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   2. @Rev. Roy Trepanier
      August 23, 2024 at 9:31 pm

      “Wow. A lot of discord here. Let me make it simple. The Tribulation period is stated by Daniel to be the “Time of Jacob’s Trouble”.”

      Hello Roy, when I read Daniel 12, I see that ‘jacobs trouble’ is followed by the resurrection of the dead .
      I know from 1st Thessalonians 4 that the resurrection of the dead must happen before the rapture can take place.
      So, the rapture follows the resurrection and not the other way round.
      And the resurrection of the dead will not happen until Christ’s coming as stated by Paul in 1st Thessalonians 4

      “The “Tribulation’ is uniquely a Jewish event”

      No it isn’t
      In his Olivet discourse Christ is describing world events and how it will affect his elect saints which is the Christian church both worldwide and in Judea. He gives specific mention to those in Judea where the abomination of desolation will be set up but it is a mistake to think that the great tribulation only involves Judea.
      Revelation makes it clear that there will be tribulation worldwide and that the church will suffer greatly.

      “And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
      And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.”

      “The church has no business there, it is reserved for Jews only; so, like God removed Noah and his family (the then church) from the destruction He brought on the whole world, God removes the church, His Bride, from His coming judgments and ensuing destruction. (Scripture states that some 5 billion will die in that 7 years).“

      It’s odd that you use Noah to support a pretribulation rapture. Because Christ used Noah to support the fact that He will return to rapture His church AFTER the great tribulation.

      You are dipping into Christ’s Olivet discourse and then twisting it’s meaning.

      On the one hand you admit that Christ is talking about the rapture but on the other hand you deny that Christ is talking about the rapture. Dispensationalism is full of such hypocrisy.

      “God would not allow His Son to ‘beat up’ His Bride before the wedding, and neither would the Son desire such.“

      This is sentimental nonsense taken straight from the dispensationalist handbook.
      The church has always gone through tribulation. Stephen, Peter and Paul were all martyred along with many millions of Christians throughout history. Even today there are many Christians being martyred in certain parts of the world.
      We are told in Acts that “we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.”
      In Revelation we see Christians being martyred right up to the coming of Christ. I suggest you read where the fifth seal is opened.

      “Jesus comes to ‘fetch His Bride’ ( in my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and RECEIVE YOU UNTO MYSELF; that where I am, there ye may be also. And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know”. John 14:2-6“

      The pretribbers misuse this scripture by suggesting that it’s saying that there will be a period of time between their imaginary pretribulation rapture and the coming of Christ.
      They confuse the tribulation period with the period of wrath.

      The truth is that the wrath of God is not unleashed until after Christ’s second coming. This is made clear in Revelation where the day of wrath is declared when the sixth seal is opened.

      The 6th seal reveals Christ’s second coming .

      The wrath of God is not unleashed until the 7th seal is opened after Christ’s coming.

      God’s wrath includes the trumpet judgements and the bowls of wrath.

      Christians will not be on this earth during the period of wrath because ALL of the saints will have been raptured at Christ’s coming. Both the dead saints and the living saints will be raptured before the 7the seal is opened, because we are not appointed to wrath. There will not even be one single Christian on this earth during the period of wrath, even the graves of Christians will have been emptied before God begins pouring his wrath upon this earth.

      It is important to see the distinction which God makes between the tribulation period and the period of wrath.

      Rapture………………..We go to Him !

      Yes , at the second coming as stated by Christ and by Paul

      “Second Coming….He comes down, every eye shall see Him, (that’s everyone in the entire world), He sets His foot on Mount Moriah, and it splits in two making a huge valley. He sets up His Millenium Kingdom on the ancient throne of King David in Jerusalem. (If you don’t know this, you haven’t read your Bible. Ya gotta read it all, ya know).“

      Jesus will not dwell on this earth again.
      Peter tells us that this world will be destroyed at Christ’s coming and that we should be looking for ” new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”

      “10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

      11Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

      12Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

      13Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

      14Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

      15And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;”

      This world will be destroyed at Christ’s coming. So, Christ will not be dwelling here with his glorified saints. God will create new heavens and a new earth, which will be fit for Christ to dwell in glory with his glorified saints.

      Prophecy is of no private interpretation. Even Paul didn’t have a proper understanding of old testament prophecies until Christ saved him and taught him.
      So, you cant come on here using old testament prophecies to contradict the clear teaching of Christ and his apostles.

      “(If you don’t know this, you haven’t read your Bible. Ya gotta read it all, ya know).“

      The problem is that you are reading the bible through a false narrative. You are like a sailor with a broken compass. You are lost in a sea of ‘dispensationalist’ delusion.

      “Second Coming….He comes down, every eye shall see Him, (that’s everyone in the entire world),

      Yes , this is when the rapture happens as described by Christ and Paul. There is NO pretribulation rapture mentioned in the bible.

      “Not so complicated, eh? “🙂

      You leave out so much of the clear teaching of Christ and his apostles with your a la carte approach to the bible. You rely on the jaded quotes of the ‘dispensationalists’ instead of the clear teaching of Christ and his apostles.

      Your handling of the scriptures is both poor and dangerous because you are endorsing a false doctrine. I hope that you will repent and reject the false ‘dispensationalist’ doctrine.

      I will be happy to respond to any questions or challenges you might want to put to me.

      Anthony William aka Unibokk

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      1. “Second Coming….He comes down, every eye shall see Him, (that’s everyone in the entire world),

         Yes , this is when the rapture happens as described by Christ and Paul. There is NO pretribulation rapture mentioned in the bible.

         So, according to your own words, the Rapture and the Second Coming are simultaneous events. OK, that, plus all your previous comments, tell me all I need to know about where you are coming from, so, all I can say (or want to say) is…Boy, are you in for a surprise !! 🙂

         As you stated that you are happy to respond to any question I might have, explain Ezekial 43:7 to me, the way you understand it. Where will Jesus live, who will He live with and how long will He live there with them??

         Shalom,

         Rev. Roy………<><

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      2. @Rev. Roy Trepanier
         August 24, 2024 at 12:37 pm

         You say:
         “So, according to your own words, the Rapture and the Second Coming are simultaneous events. OK, that, plus all your previous comments, tell me all I need to know about where you are coming from, so, all I can say (or want to say) is…Boy, are you in for a surprise !!“

         So, show me from the scriptures why you think I’m in for a surprise

         You say:

         As you stated that you are happy to respond to any question I might have, explain Ezekial 43:7 to me, the way you understand it. Where will Jesus live, who will He live with and how long will He live there with them??.

         There are different opinions on this verse but nothing conclusive , as you well know. So, instead of addressing the errors which I pointed out in your last comment, you try to pull a fast one by throwing in a red herring in order to create a distraction.

         I’ve previously said that prophecy is of no private interpretation.

         It is dangerous to enter into wild conjecture as is the wont of dispensationalists who seek out unexplained old testament prophecies which they then lend their own interpretations to, in order to suit their own false narrative.

         We should learn from Paul’s mistakes.

         Paul wrongly interpreted old testament prophecies which is why he persecuted the church until Christ intervened and saved him and then gave him a proper understanding.

         I’ve also said before, that old testament prophecies cannot be used to contradict the clear teaching of Christ and his apostles.

         So, I will not indulge in bad practise at your behest.

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   3. Roy, you have correctly named and stated the order of events as described in the Bible. But it is important to remember that these end time events are spiritually discerned. Daniel was told by the angel to seal up the vision and the prophecy until the time of the end so that it could not be understood. John however, was told that the time was at hand in his day. Paul said the spirit of Antichrist was already at work back when he wrote the New Testament. But the Bible also says that none of the wicked would understand. The problem we run into in our day is that so many are untaught in the scriptures and as a result, we are constantly trying to help those who want to learn, while keeping them from being confused by those who want to confuse and keep them from learning. And then there are also those who think that the best way to learn is by arguing points that they don’t understand and challenging those who do understand. So there are several dynamics occurring here as we’re sort out those who really want to learn, from those who just read Bible verses like they were playing eeny meeny, miney, moe for fun, instead of learning from well studied theologians and letting The Holy Spirit teach them. Thank you for your comments. Such are the teachings that have been handed down through the last 2000 years.

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      1. @ Jay

         Your full of crap. I’m constantly correcting your errors.

         I’ve given you several detailed and accurate comments on Rev. 3:10 , 1st Thessalonians and 2nd Thessalonians. But you refuse to acknowledge the truth.

         I’ve asked you to answer a simple question but you couldn’t answer it because it exposes your ignorance of the scriptures.

         Here’s the question I asked

         Where in first Thessalonians 4 did Paul say that the rapture would happen before the great tribulation

         Answer NOWHERE.

         You didn’t answer the question because to do so would mean acknowledging that this chapter does not support your false notion of a pretribulation rapture.

         You say:

         “Paul said the spirit of Antichrist was already at work back when he wrote the New Testament. “

         WRONG AGAIN!!

         It was John who made that statement.

         1 John 4:3
         And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

         You say:

         “instead of learning from well studied theologians and letting The Holy Spirit teach them.“

         You are obviously listening to the wrong theologians because you haven’t a clue. If the Holy Spirit was teaching you then you would acknowledge the truth. But instead you run scared from the truth.

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      2. Unibokk, unless The Lord shows you these things, you will not be able to understand them. Because they are spiritually discerned. You can argue angrily if you like, but you’re trying to make Gods Word to fit your preconceived notions instead of having a systematic theology based on prophecy that actually fits Biblical text. Most pastors these days no longer preach on prophecy because it doesn’t draw crowds and money, so as a result, people like you run around getting all angry and upset when real prophecy is presented. If you want to stay around and endure the tribulation, I’m not going to give you a hard time about it. That’s up to you and I promise I won’t interfere.

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      3. @Jay

         Jay go away.

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      4. Very astute observations. Many forget that Matthew 7:13-20 says….. “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it”.

         I went fishing the other day and caught a ‘few’ fish. Hmmmmm. Many and few !

         The remnant seems to get smaller every day as supposed “Christians and Christian demoninations’ side with Palestine and the butchers of Hamas instead of the ‘apple of God’s eye’.

         Rev. Roy……….<><

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      5. Rev. Roy Trepanier
         August 24, 2024 at 12:28 pm

         True faith is evidenced by adherence to the teaching of Christ and his apostles. Your testimony lacks this evidence since you choose to embrace a false doctrine. And when your errors are pointed out you refuse to listen. Instead you dart off in another direction.

         I’ve noticed this behaviour in dispensationalists . They are evasive because they know their false doctrine cannot stand up to fair biblical scrutiny.

         You’re not fooling me and you’re not fooling God. If you’re happy to fool yourself and we wilfully blind to ‘God’s truth , then you are on dangerous ground.

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7. Hey Leo, I have posted 1 or 2 messages here and they have been scrubbed. I really got to question the wordpress platform and their archaic signing in multiple times. I think things are getting censored.

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   1. Yes, that is why I post the majority of my articles now at my Substack account.

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      1. awesome, thanks Leo.

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   2. Hello Arnold you may be able to overcome this if you copy your comment to wordpad and then copy again from wordpad and then paste into the comments section here.

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8. I think many on this forum would do well to understand the 3 separate and distinct terms used in the Bible to describe 3 separate events instead of playing fast and loose with the terms, which causes confusion.

   1. “The Day of Christ”
   2. ”The Day of The Lord”
   3. ”The Day of God” When these terms are properly understood separately instead of just assuming that they all mean the same thing, the rapture, second coming and the tribulation verses in the Bible are not so easily misunderstood.

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   1. You are the one sowing the confusion. There are only two “comings” of our Lord, not two and a half, not three. Just two. And one of them has already taken place.

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      1. But you are assuming things again instead of studying the 3 terms as they are stated in the Bible. Each term has a specific definition. I never said that these 3 terms are 3 separate comings.

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9. I agree with Leo’s post @ 9:40 a.m. on 8/23. When I 1st was converted, I remember pastors preaching the Rapture, and according to what I remember hearing, we should’ve been Raptured long ago. I get the sense that what you’ve said about pre-tribbers rings true, but we’re probably not going to change anyone’s mind. This is not a salvation issue IMHO, and we have enough enemies that want our heads to roll, we don’t need to be at each other’s throats over this. We should all be Matt. 24:45-47 Christians. Jesus will come back when He does, in the Father’s timing.

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   1. Amen. Yes. Thank you Bill. I think the devil uses this issue as a wedge where none needs to be.

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10. For those of you who may still be unsure of the rapture before the tribulation, I recommend a video called, “Before The Wrath.” It emphasizes the fact that many fail to understand the concept of a Pre-tribulation rapture because they are more concerned with the when than the why of the event. Once you understand the “why” of Christs return in the rapture, the when becomes far less important as far as setting dates. The video compares the midnight shout and sound of the trumpet associated with a Jewish Galilean wedding to the midnight shout and sound of the trumpet in the rapture spoken of in Thessalonians. The important thing is not when the rapture will be, but rather being ready and anticipating when the Bridegroom comes. If you don’t have oil in your lamp and you are not anticipating the return of Christ for His own, then you are definitely not going in the rapture. You are in fact staying for the tribulation.

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    1. Why do you insist on pushing false doctrine.

       There is not one single verse in the bible which supports a pretribulation rapture.

       The tribulation period and the period of wrath are two separate events.

       The tribulation happens before the coming of Christ

       The wrath of God happens after the coming of Christ

       When Christ comes he will send his angels with the great sound of a trumpet, to rapture his elect, saints. Before the wrath of God is unleashed upon this earth.

       The period of wrath includes the trumpet judgements and the bowls of wrath.

       This is the wrath that Christians will not have to endure which is why Paul tells us that God has not appointed us to wrath,

       There will not be one single Christian on this earth during the period of wrath even the dead in Christ will have been raptured.

       So, stop peddling your muck when there are no scriptures to support it.

       You mention the midnight shout and the sound of the trumpet and having oil in your lamp.

       These are all taken from Christ’s Olivet discourse where he describes the rapture and he says that it will happen at his coming AFTER the great tribulation.

       You quote from Christs description of the rapture whilst denying that Christ is talking about the rapture.

       You talk absolute nonsense.

       The truth is that the rapture happens at Christ’s coming. This is confirmed by Paul in 1st Thessalonians when Paul says that the rapture will happen at Christ’s coming.

       If you cant support your notions with scripture then I suggest that you remain silent.

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       1. The rapture happens before the 7 year tribulation. That’s when the dead in Christ rise first and true believers meet The Lord in the air. Not on the ground 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17. The second coming of Jesus (to earth) is at the end of the tribulation when Jesus returns on the white horse with 10,000’s of His saints (that He raptured before the tribulation and who have been at the marriage supper of the Lamb in heaven during the 7 year tribulation) and that’s when Jesus returns to rescue Israel and to fight the Battle of Armageddon. His feet actually come all the way to planet earth and touch the mount of Olives at that point. Then you can truly say that Jesus has made His second coming.

          So don’t confuse the rapture with the second coming. 2 very different events.

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       2. That is your opinion. We get it. Can we stop beating this horse now? Why the fixation with the timing of all this? I think it’s because the pre-tribbers see things going south and they are afraid of the coming persecution. Why not just let God be God, trust that whatever He has got planned is for the best and admit we don’t have all the answers as to when He will do these things? Meanwhile, the world is burning down in front of our faces. I choose to focus on what I know rather than speculate on what I don’t know and then preach it as though it is fact.

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       3. This conversation has gone far enough. It is fruitless. I’ll finish by suggesting that you put away the ‘dispensationalist’ fiction and study the bible properly, instead.

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       4. Just to clarify:

          My comment at 10:45 was meant for Jay.

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       5. There will always be that one who comes to insert the lie into conversations of truth. Those who know, know, but I hope those who are still on “milk” can see through the lies w/ the truth of the Holy Spirit.

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       6. And considering that only the Church at Philadelphia Revelation 3:10 has the promise of avoiding the tribulation because they are expectantly awaiting the Lords return as He commanded and are ready when he comes, you are going to have the opportunity to say, “see, I told you so, the church isn’t going in the rapture; it is staying for the tribulation.” And you will be correct. Because the other 6 churches of Asia Minor have no such promise. They are staying for the tribulation. But you won’t be able to find me to say, “I told you so” because I won’t be here.

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       7. @Jay August 23, 2024 at 7:26 pm

          Jay you are talking nonsense again.
          Here’s an answer I’ve already given :

          Revelation 3:10 makes no mention of a pretribulation rapture.

          The ‘dispensationalists’ have hijacked that verse and twisted it’s meaning.

          The word ‘keep’ in Revelation 3:10 does not mean to remove . The word ‘keep’ means to take care of or to guard.

          Here is an analysis of the Greek word used in Revelation 3:10

          “τηρέω tereo {tay-reh’-o}

          1) to attend to carefully, take care of 1a) to guard 1b) metaph. to keep, one in the state in which he is 1c) to observe 1d) to reserve: to undergo something”

          Christ gives an example of this when He was about to leave this world. He prays that the Father will ‘keep’ his disciples as they are left to continue in this world.

          — “I am no longer in the world; and [yet] they themselves are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep them in Your name, [the name] which You have given Me, that they may be one even as We [are].

          The word ‘keep’ ( τηρέω) is used in the original text for this verse. This is the same word used in Revelation 3;10

          Jay You are in denial
          You have added to Revelation something which it has not said. You should be worried!.

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    2. Jay, my husband and I have seen “Before the Wrath,” and it’s a truly fascinating documentary for explaining the similarities between the words Jesus spoke to His disciples concerning His return and the Jewish Galilean customs surrounding betrothal and marriage. There are some good people offering insights like Pastor Jack Hibbs, Jan Markell and others.

       According to the customs of His day, the betrothal was sealed by the couple drinking from the same cup of wine. The preparations could take up to a year, but the date when the prospective bridegroom would come and get his bride-to-be for the wedding was determined entirely by his father. In the meantime, he would be in the process of preparing a place for her, usually in his father’s house, adding on extra rooms.

       As the Bride of Christ, we can look forward to our Bridegroom’s return for us in the Rapture. Regarding the oil in the lamps of the virgins in Matthew 25:3-4, there is this interesting explanation from Gil’s Exposition of the Entire Bible:

       and took no oil with them: by oil is meant, not temporal blessings, nor spiritual ones, nor the Gospel, nor the gifts of the Spirit, all which are sometimes signified by oil; but either the Spirit of God himself, who is the oil of gladness, and the anointing which teacheth all things; or the regenerating and sanctifying grace of the Spirit, even all the graces which are implanted by him in conversion…the grace of the Spirit, which was poured forth, without measure, on Christ, and from him descends to all his members

       Now these foolish virgins, though they took up a lamp of a profession, yet were unconcerned for the oil of grace, to fill, maintain, and trim this lamp: they were ignorant of the nature and use of true grace; they saw no need of it, and therefore did not ask for it, or about it; they neglected it, made light of it, and denied it as useless; and being destitute of it, took up their profession without it; and in this lay their folly.

       So it looks like this interpretation of the oil is the presence of the Holy Spirit, and/or “the sanctifying grace of the of the Spirit…in conversion” which we receive when we become born again. The foolish virgins don’t understand this grace (salvation/new birth) and don’t ask for it. They are like a lot of people who’ve been raised in traditional denominations, but don’t believe they’re sinners and therefore have never repented and asked Jesus to be their Savior. They think they are good enough and will automatically go to Heaven at the end of their lives. There is an element of pride in this which will prove fatal to them.

       That really makes sense because Jesus Himself said you have to be born again. The only people who will be taken in the Rapture, then, are those who are born again followers of His. They have the oil (Holy Spirit) in their lamps (bodies). Those who never did make that decision to accept Him will be left behind.

       Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?

       1 Corinthians 6:19

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       1. Very well spoken Anna. One must understand that they are a complete sinner in order to be saved. Unless Gods Holy Spirit shows them that they are a sinner, they will believe that there was a part of them that was good enough to recognize the goodness of God instead of giving God the credit for doing the complete work of salvation Himself from beginning to ending. They are like the woman who thinks she can give a man 2 match sticks and he will use them to build her a shopping mall. They don’t see that their own will is sinful, so they rename it “freewill” because that sounds so much better than complete sinner and it allows them to feel like they are in control of their salvation instead of leaving it to God and simply trusting Him.

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       2. Rubbish! I have never doubted that I am a “complete sinner” and yet I believe wholeheartedly that man has a free will.

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       3. So do you believe that your sinful will would choose God, even though God says there is none righteous and none that seeks after God?

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       4. Yes. I choose Him wholeheartedly! Without Him I am a piece of sinful manure!

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       5. So your will to accept Jesus is under your control and God is not in control of your will? And you were good enough to recognize the goodness of God without the Holy Spirit touching you and changing you?

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       6. Indeed, this is an interesting turn of events. It would appear that we now have the sheep leaving the herd and going to look for the shepherd rather than the Good Shepherd seeking and retrieving His lost sheep. Is it really the Shepherd who has gone astray? At this rate, Next thing you know, we’ll have women asking men to marry them and men preparing the earth for God instead of God preparing heaven for men.

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       7. We are just coming from two totally opposite theological backgrounds brother. Your beliefs about the nature of God are foreign to me, and yet we read the same bible. But we can agree on one thing: Jesus Christ is the Son of God and Lord over all and there is no way to the Father except through Him! Amen!

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       8. Leo, while we are both agreeing verbally that Jesus Christ is the only way of salvation from sin and hell, it is not just a side issue to admit that we are totally depraved sinners who lack even the will to come to God. The essence of being a Christian is not all about our will. In fact, Christianity is all about giving up our will for Gods will. All of these issues are so closely linked because when a person believes that they are saved because of their own will and that faith comes as a result of their freewill instead of being the gift of God, Ephesians 2:8-9, they then believe that they provided that saving faith themselves. So next thing you know, they are doubting their own salvation because they are the ones who made it happen with their own freewill instead of that faith being the gift of God. Such is the nature of a freewill faith that they have no eternal security and could lose their salvation because they saved themselves rather than God saving them. This often plays directly into their belief that they must endure suffering through the tribulation as a good work for God in order to earn their worthiness to be saved. God has promised that He won’t lose even one of His chosen and elect believers and it is the extreme privilege and duty of believers to carry that Gospel message to them. But flimsy doctrine that puts man in control rather than God creates confusion and substitutes subtle lies for the Truth.

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       9. Jay – “Unless Gods Holy Spirit shows them that they are a sinner..They don’t see that their own will is sinful, so they rename it “freewill…”

          Jay, it’s true that the Holy Spirit convicts us of our sin and is involved in regeneration of our spirit, but in the following scriptures, people are still asked to choose. It would be impossible to do that unless God gave them the freedom to choose (“free will”):

          I call heaven and earth as witnesses today against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live; Deuteronomy 30:19

          And if it seems evil to you to serve the Lord, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell. But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. Joshua 24:15

          Anyone who chooses to do the will of God will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own. John 7:17

          We also have another God-given faculty to help us when we make a choice: our conscience.

          I am telling the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience testifies with me in the Holy Spirit, Romans 9:1

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11. Such a system is the work of Satan and is something we can do without.

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12. Revelation 2:13

    King James Version

    13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan’s seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.

    Antipas means “for all or against all” as in, neutrality, like Switzerland, where Geneva is. Switzerland’s motto is “all for one and one for all”.

    Geneva’s motto is “after darkness, the light”….2 Corinthians 11:14…Satan transformed himself into an angel of light….after darkness, the light, at Satan’s seat & dwelling place in present day spiritual Pergamos; Geneva Switzerland.

    In the old Hebrew Bible “geneva” means “stolen freedom”, as in, kidnapping to sell into slavery. Cross reference that with the agenda of all the Satanic organizations in Geneva.

    In Revelation 2:17 Christ promises to supernaturally feed the church of Pergamos. In 1 Kings 19 the pre incarnate Christ (Angel of the Lord) supernaturally feeds Elijah under a juniper tree. Geneva means juniper tree.

    The Pergamos prophecy references Balac & Baalam. Their story can be found in the old testament in Numbers 22. Geneva Switzerland’s area code is 22.

    In Job 41 we read about leviathan. Switzerland’s country code is 41….seat & dwelling place of Satan (leviathan).

    The Pergamos prophecy also speaks about “the deeds of the Nicolaitanes”. Nicolaitanes means “conquering the laity”, as in, oppressive religious hierarchy. John Calvin established a theocracy at Geneva Switzerland.

    Geneva has 13 zip codes. 13 is the number of rebellion/evil in the Bible & is associated with the antichrist (Revelation 13), Satan (Ezekiel 28, verse 13) & Satan’s seat & dwelling place (Revelation 2 verse 13). It’s also interesting to note that Switzerland’s country code is 41 & if you add the 28+13 in Ezekiel 28:13, you get 41….and that verse in Ezekiel is referring to Satan.

    The opening verse (12) of the Pergamos prophecy has 22 words…Geneva area code = 22.

    In the 2nd verse of the Pergamos prophecy (13) the word “where” appears 3 times. The final time that it appears is in direct reference to Antipas’s place of martyrdom…and is the 41st word of the verse…Switzerland’s country code is 41.

    In the 3rd verse of the Pergamos prophecy (verse 14) there are 41 words…Switzerland country code is 41. Also BALAC is the 22nd word in this verse…Geneva area code = 22. BALAC has a cumulative alphabetic value of 19. 19+22 = 41….Switzerland’s country code is 41. B = 2nd, letter A = 1st, L = 12th, A = 1st, C = 3rd…add them to get 19 + it’s the 22nd word of the verse = 41.

    BALAC means “devastator” or “one who lays waste” and is found here as a reference in the Pergamos prophecy. At CERN in Geneva, they pay homage to SHIVA the destroyer. And in the “old days” there was a temple of Apollyon (destroyer) in Geneva. Destroyer….devastator…one who lays waste at Pergamos…Satan’s seat. Same devil, different cultures.

    Pergamos WAS literal Pergamos where Zeus’s altar originally was. Zeus king of devils…Satan’s seat. Zeus god of lightning…Luke 10:18.

    Pergamos (spiritually) seat of Satan IS Geneva where Antipas was martyred although there are conflicting stories about this. Some say Geneva. Some say Pergamos. Scriptural evidence cross referenced with real world evidence all points to Geneva. You’ll have to forgive me if I trust Bible over “church historians”.

    Pergamos (spiritually) seat of Satan IS TO COME Jerusalem….same location as Armageddon (Revelation 2:16)…in literal physical Israel. Which is why the Pergamos prophecy is the only 1 of the 7 churches that has a reference to OT Israelites. That’s a clue, not a coincidence. God does not speak flippantly.

    Pergamos, eating things sacrificed to idols…cross reference Isaiah 66:13-17. Location: Jerusalem. Timeframe: Tribulation/Christ’s return. People are eating a sacrifice to the “abomination” behind 1 tree in the midst of the gardens…cross reference Genesis 3…the tree in the midst of the garden of Eden. The people in Jerusalem in Isaiah 66 are worshipping the serpent by taking unholy communion to the “abomination”.

    Pergamos, promised hidden manna…cross reference Revelation 12:14. The woman is being nourished from the face of the serpent. If his face is there so is the rest of him because it’s his seat & dwelling place…which is Pergamos…which spiritually is Jerusalem in the tribulation.

    Jerusalem is called Sodom & Egypt (Revelation 11:8) so it’s no shocker that she has many (spiritual) names…including Pergamos. The man of sin is Satan incarnate & he will dwell at earthly Jerusalem (Revelation 11:7-8 & Daniel 11:45) because God dwells in Jerusalem above & Satan wants to copy God.

    At 777 (Rev 21…21 = 7+7+7) Christ returns & New Jerusalem is completed. There are no denominations & divisions in New Jerusalem. There is love perfected with 1 consent & 1 pure language (Zephaniah 3:8-9). Which means until then we still have these divisions (7 churches) & denominations. So they’re 3 layer prophecies; past, present, future.

    And the church of Pergamos in the tribulation is the Israeli remnant that evangelical/dispensationalists wrongly teach is separate from the church to justify their early escape fable. And if Pergamos is here being tried in the fires of tribulation, we’ll all be here because the body cannot be divided (1 Corinthians 12:12-25).

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13. If the last several years have not shaken people out of normalcy bias, then nothing can.

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14. Jesus said we must forgive our brother until 70×7. AFTER (not BEFORE) the 70th week we get new sinless bodies and we won’t be sinning against each other so there’ll be no need to forgive each other.

    Revelation 3:10 is a direct cross reference to Revelation 14’s events and is nowhere near a pre trib time frame. As a matter of fact, Christ promised to keep us from the HOUR of temptation, but He did NOT promise to keep us from Daniel’s 70th WEEK. Every word matters (Matthew 4:4).

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15. Leo – “The European Union (EU) launched its digital ID and wallet earlier this year…may be connected to one’s bank accounts.”

    The digital ID interconnected with a central bank digital currency (CBDC) that is regulated according to social credit scoring criteria would lock in a system that would force people to conform to the “values” of Klaus Schwab’s stinking cesspool Fourth Reich. The CBDCs are well on their way.

    The Atlantic Council website tracks countries who have been exploring CBDC systems. Out of 134 nations, 3 have launched, 36 are in pilot phase, 30 in development and 44 in research (last updated May 2024).

    “The Biden administration is putting its support behind the research and development of a “U.S. Central Bank Digital Currency,” or CBDC.”

    (NBC News, March 9, 2022)

    Since the digital ID will help to provide a complete picture of a person’s daily activities and all financial transactions will be monitored, if aspects of a person’s behavior result in an inadequate social “score,” access to a digital wallet could be blocked.

    Microsoft published a patent in March 26, 2020 for what might be an experimental prototype of such a system. Using sensors (invasive digital ID?) connected to a subject, a software process verifies whether the person’s bodily behavior meets the criteria for getting a cryptocurrency reward. The sensors can detect physiological activities such as brain waves, body fluid flow, pulse rate, etc.

    The patent’s title is “WO2020060606 – Cryptocurrency System Using Body Activity Data” and is available for viewing on the Patent Scope website and Google Patents.

    The Patent Scope website shows a simple graphic above the abstract that illustrates the system. If you want a more detailed step-by-step flowchart for how it works, underneath the abstract there is a heading, “Related patent documents.” Click on “US20200097951.”

    That 060606 in the patent number is interesting.

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16. Messiah told his own hand picked apostles that “he that endures to the end shall be saved”. He told Smyrna to “be faithful unto death and you shall receive the crown of life”. He told Sardis that unless they overcome that he would blot their names out of the book of life. He urged believers to “menno: continue, remain” in him using the word eleven times in the first eleven verses of John 15. He must be serious!

    Getting “preachers” to convince the saints that salvation is a settled question was Satan’s greatest achievement and reminds us of Anthony Fauci’s claim that the science is settled. To have no concern whatsoever of one’s judgment violates Thomas a Kempis’ admonition in his classic work “The Imitation of Christ”. Thomas wisely pointed out that NOTHING is more important than attending daily to your soul’s destiny. NOTHING else will matter when it’s too late!

    Paul called us to an attitude of “fear and trembling” stating that: “But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a rejected.
    -1 Corinthians 9:27

    If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead. Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus. -Philippians 3:11,12

    For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, IF you continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. -Romans 11:22

    Question: how could a branch be cut off of an olive tree or a grape vine if the branch had never been attached?

    Messiah: “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but (only) he that does the will of my Father which is in heaven. -Matthew 7:21

    Let NO MAN deceive you by ANY MEANS: for that day (the rapture) shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; -2 Thessalonians 2:3

    Now the Spirit speaks emphatically, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; -1 Timothy 4:1

    Question: just HOW does one depart from where they have never been?

    1 John 2: 3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 

    And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming. -1 John 2:28

    Finally, always remember that the Tares go FIRST, so being left behind means that you are the blessed wheat!

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    1. “Finally, always remember that the Tares go FIRST, so being left behind means that you are the blessed wheat!”

       This is nonsense!

       Paul, clearly teaches that the saints will be taken up to be with Christ in the air at His coming.

       Christ teaches that it will be like Lot who was taken by the angels out of Sodom whilst the people, left behind were the ones who suffered God’s wrath.

       Likewise with Noah. Noah was taken up whilst the people who were left behind were destroyed

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       1. Noah got on the ark in Genesis 7:7. Genesis is a 7 letter word so he got on the ark at 777. We will board “the Ark” at 777…seals/trumpets/vials…no early escape is coming.

          In Luke 2:36-37 Anna did not go into the temple to serve day & night & go no more out until she was 77+7. We won’t go into the Temple to serve day & night & go no more out (Revelation 3:12/Revelation 7:15) until 777…seals/trumpets/vials…no early escape is coming.

          In Daniel chapter 10, Daniel was in mourning 3 full weeks before Christ came to him. 3 full weeks = 21 days = 7+7+7 days & then Christ came to Daniel in Daniel (6 letters) chapter 10 verse 5…6+10+5 = 21 = 777….we will be in mourning until 777 and then Christ will come. Seals/trumpets/vials…no early escape is coming.

          This pattern is all throughout the Bible btw. For instance, Mark 10:7…a man (Christ) leaves Father & mother (Jerusalem above》Galatians 4:26) to cleave to His bride (church). Mark = 4 letters…4+10(chapter)+7(verse) = 21 = 777. At 777 He is coming to cleave to His bride. Seals/trumpets/vials…no early escape is coming.

          Ruth 4:13…Ruth (gentile bride) marries Boaz (type & picture of Christ). Ruth = 4 letters…4+4(chapter)+13(verse) = 21 = 777. Our marriage is at 777…no early escape is coming.

          Luke 11:10…11+10 = 21 = 777….it shall be opened to you. Cross reference Revelation 3:8…the door is open in this verse…Revelation = 10 letters…10+3(chapter)+8(verse) = 21 = 777. The door does not open until 777…no early escape is coming.

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    2. John 6:39

       King James Version

       39 And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of ALL which he hath given me I should LOSE NOTHING, but should raise it up again at the last day.

       If you teach loss of salvation you deny Christ’s words & you worship a god who is not all knowing & can be surprised. God’s not up in heaven biting His nails wondering who’s making it across the finish line. If you are His, you’ll endure to the end. If you “fall away” you were never His to start with.

       They went out from us but were not of us….says it all. Paul also said in 2 Timothy when speaking about shipwrecked faith that NEVERTHELESS the Lord knows who are His. Translation: God already knows; you can only lose salvation in the eyes of man.

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    3. You can’t save yourself with your own freewill. Only God can save you. If you could save yourself with your own will, then you wouldn’t need God to do it. Besides, your own will is the most sinful thing about you and it is not about to choose God and salvation unless God Himself changes your sinful will. Your will is sinful and that’s the reason you need to be saved in the first place. And it isn’t a free will either, because until Jesus shows you the Truth, you can’t be made free.

       The reason most people doubt their salvation is because they think they saved themselves with their own freewill. And thus their salvation is something they do for themselves instead of believing that God saved them. Such people have every reason to doubt their salvation because they think they saved themselves with their own freewill instead of simply trusting Jesus to do it.

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       1. The only way you can be eternally secure in your salvation is if God saved you. If you believe that you saved yourself with your own freewill, then of course you’re going to doubt a salvation that amounts to “do it yourself.” You’re always going to be trying to work for your salvation and it’s never enough. Maybe you can just be a little more faithful, or do a few more good works, or suffer a little more for God and that will make you acceptable to God??? Hey, the tribulation!!! Wouldn’t that be a great time to suffer for God and earn your salvation?
          Problem is, that’s not God saving you. That’s you saving yourself. Of course you’re going to doubt your salvation and your eternal security if you saved yourself with your own freewill instead of trusting God to do it.

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       2. Jay, are you saying you don’t believe God created us with a free will?

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       3. Jesus said, “You shall know the Truth and the Truth shall make you free.” Until a man knows the Truth, there is nothing free about him, and especially not his will. His will is enslaved to sin, just like every other part of his being. Nothing free about it. And to say that a man will choose God on his own is directly contrary to Gods Word which says “There is none righteous, no not one.” “There is none that seek after God.” “All we like sheep have gone astray.” And If someone wants to take credit for saving themself with their own freewill, then in effect they are saying that they are better than all the other people out there who did not choose God and in fact they fail to recognize that they are a sinner, just like everyone else who rejected God. A man cannot be saved until he recognizes that he is a sinner, through and through. Every part of a man is a sinner. He was born that way and had no choice in the matter. And no, one man isn’t better than another that he would choose God with this crazy idea of a freewill while the rest are so sinful that they won’t choose God. If a man chooses God, it is only because Gods Holy Spirit caused him too because he was one of Gods elect, chosen by the Grace of God before the foundation of the world. Ephesians 2:8-9 says that faith is not of yourselves, it is a gift of God. Faith is not something a man can create with his own so-called freewill. His will is not free. His will is enslaved to sin until God sets him free and saves him.

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       4. So God created some people simply for the joy of seeing them thrown into hell and everlasting torment? Your god sounds sadistic. Are you by any chance a Calvinist?

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       5. Proverbs 16:4 says that The Lord has made all things for Himself, yes, even the wicked for the day of evil. And God didn’t ask our opinions before He did it. IIPeter 2:12 talks about those who as natural brute beast, were made for the purpose of being taken and destroyed. An no, God is not wringing His hands and sweating out this battle in the heavens, wondering whether man’s so-called “freewill” or the devil that God Himself created is going to win this conflict. If that were the case, then prophecy wouldn’t be certain and God would just be sitting there guessing at an outcome He wasn’t in complete control of. If you believe that God is not in complete control, then you serve a different God than the God of the Bible. I like much of your work and enjoy much of the conversation, but if a God who is in complete control is a welcome concept here, then I can take the hint.

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       6. Im surprised you frequent this website because I’m a big believer in free will and the globalists’ (Satan’s minions) war on free will. Yes, it’s a real thing.

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       7. Jay, one way to look at this is that salvation is a free gift from God. But it’s up to us whether or not we want to accept His gift.

          Jesus did all the work on the cross. It’s His blood sacrifice that saves us, so there’s nothing we can do to save ourselves or make His finished work more perfect.

          God really wants us to accept this gift, because He loves us so much, but He doesn’t want to force His will upon us, so He’s put that decision into our own hands. We’re made in His image and likeness. Because He has free will, we have it too.

          So accepting the gift of salvation doesn’t mean we’re earning our own salvation. We’re just accepting a gift. And when you give a gift to someone, you’re offering it to them, not thrusting it upon them.

          God doesn’t want us to be little automatons who are forced to love Him. He wants us to love Him freely just as He loves us freely. That’s the way it is with human relationships, too. Love isn’t really love if it’s compelled.

          I know that sometimes Christians can doubt their salvation, especially if they go through a period where they don’t “feel” God’s presence. We’re only human and it’s common to experience times like that. But we can have assurance that when we accept Jesus as Savior, the Holy Spirit comes to live within us. He’ll always be there, doing the work of sanctification, transforming us, and leading us into the truth of God’s word. One encouraging verse that assures us of the permanence of salvation:

          being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ

          Philippians 1:6

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17. What’s most amazing to me reading these comments is how dead sure some of these people are that they will be raptured out of here without even as much as a skinned toe. Anyone of you want to cite me a bible verse that mentions the rapture like it’s presented today?

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    1. Genesis 49:17

       King James Version

       17 Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward.

       John Nelson Darby, the father of modern dispensationalism & the pre trib rapture heresy fell from a horse and was seriously injured. During his recovery is when he developed his doctrine of devils that claims the church is separate from Israel thereby creating the new testament tribe of Dan.

       The OT Danites rejected their allotment of land within Israel because their “coasts went out too little for them” (Joshua 19:47). They wanted more room to roam. So they moved north & physically conquered Laish/Leshem (Judges 18). Laish/Leshem was a land of immigrants. It was quiet, secure, large, careless (lukewarm like Laodicea), lawless and was a land of plenty with no need of anything (like Laodicea).

       Remember what Paul said in 1 Corinthians 10? The things in the OT serve as examples for us today. The NT Danites (dispensationalists) have rejected their allotment within the Israel of God (Galatians 6:15-16) by insisting that the church is separate from Israel. They do so because the law of God makes their “coasts go out too little for them”. They want room to roam just as their OT brethren did.The NT Danites have spiritually conquered America thru their doctrines. America is identical to Laish/Leshem. America is large, quiet, secure, careless (lukewarm like Laodicea) plentiful with no need of anything (like Laodicea) and because of the NT Danites doctrines, American religion has mostly become lawless and has spilled over into the culture at large.

       In Revelation 7 Dan has no inheritance (salvation). That’s because in order to teach or believe or evangelize from a dispensational viewpoint, one must violate the commands given in Revelation 22:18-19. These verses pronounce curses upon all who add or take away from the Book. One of these curses promises removal of their part from the book of life. The modern Danites (dispensationalists) take away Matthew 24, Mark 13, and 19 chapters of Revelation and just throw them in the proverbial trash can in relation to church application.

       Revelation 22:18-19

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       18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

       19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

       It’s also interesting to note that the Danites are numerically connected to 666 throughout the OT & NT. The Danite prophecy in Genesis 49:17 is tied to 666. Genesis has a cumulative alphabetic value of 78. G = 7th letter, E = 5th, N = 14th, E = 5th, S = 19th, I = 9th, S = 19th….78 total. 7+8 = 15…1+5 = 6. chapter 49 verse 17…49+17 = 66…3 6’s tied to Dan. The Danites conquest of Laish is mentioned in Joshua 19:47 & Judges 18. Joshua is a 6 letter word. 19+47 = 66 so that’s 666 associated with Dan. And Judges 18…Judges is a 6 letter word & has a cumulative alphabetic value of 66. J = 10th letter, U = 21st, D = 4th, G = 7, E = 5th, S = 19th. Add them & you get 66…in a 6 letter word…666. Chapter 18 of Judges…18 = 6+6+6…tied to Dan yet again.

       And in the NT, the Danites & their pre trib rapture heresy & the consequences of it (false converts who fall away & betray the true brethren) are also tied numerically to the mark of the beast. The seeds on the rocks produce plants that wither & become offended in tribulation & persecution. These seeds are mentioned in Matthew 13:5 & Luke 8:6. Matthew 13:5…13+5 = 18 = 6+6+6. Luke 8:6…Luke is a 4 letter word so 4+8+6 = 18 = 6+6+6. And lastly, in Matthew 24:48 we read about the evil servant who expects an early arrival (pre trib/mid trib) of the Lord and when it does not happen he turns on his fellow servants and eats & drinks with sinners. If he is eating & drinking with sinners at this point in history he will have taken the mark. This happens in Matthew 24:48…2+4 = 6…4+8 = 12 = 6+6….666 once again tied to the Danites.

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    2. I could give you half a dozen clearly scripturally supported arguments that testify to the fact that the church will be gone from the earth before the first seal of Revelation 6 is ever opened. However, If you want a scripture that says “the Rapture will take place before the tribulation”, you are correct that you’re not going to find it. Sometimes in one’s quest to understand Truth from God’s Word, you have to dig deeper for the treasure. It’s there. For just one example, study the 24 elders in Revelation chapter 5, who are in Throne room of heaven before the first seal is ever opened by Jesus. You will find that they represent the church. How do I get there? Look at the words of the song they sing about themselves. Only the Church could sing that. Be sure you use the proper pronouns of we and us, not the mistranslation of they and them. Then look at how all the descriptions applied to the 24 elders match identically the descriptions used of the seven churches in chapters two and three. Also consider how the elders are described as kings and priests, which is exactly what we in the church are. It’s us! We are in the throne room of heaven before the first seal is ever opened. Oh, you can also throw in the fact that the seven candlesticks in Revelation 1 that are clearly identified as being the Churches show up in the throne room of Revelation 4 and 5. So no, you’re not going to get your verse that specifically says the rapture happens before the 70th week of Daniel. But it does. And if you are earnestly seeking truth and willing to be convinced by deeper arguments from the truth of God’s Word, The Holy Spirit will lead you to that inevitable conclusion. It doesn’t matter to me what you think. I know what the Word of God says. The church is not going through what most people refer to as the tribulation, that 7-year period that represents the 70th week of Daniel. I’m going to assume you are a true born-again believer. And assuming that is true, you will be incredibly and pleasantly surprised. Maranatha!!!

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       1. Ron says “Oh, you can also throw in the fact that the seven candlesticks in Revelation 1 that are clearly identified as being the Churches show up in the throne room of Revelation 4 and 5.”

          Ron talks more dispensationalist nonsense.

          The seven candlesticks clearly symbolise the seven churches which were on this earth at the time of writing. They were located in the province of Asia which is now called Turkey. The seven churches were located specifically in: Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamos, Thyatira, Sar­dis, Philadelphia, and Laodicea.

          The twenty four elders:
          We are not told who the elders are but we know that there are many saints who are already in heaven..

          When the fifth seal is opened we see that there are still Christians on this earth who are suffering . The martyrs in heaven are told that they must wait until their brethren on this earth are also martyred before God will avenge their blood.

          So, it’s clear. by the time the fifth seal is opened that the rapture has not yet taken place.

          “9And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

          10And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

          11And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.”

          The dispensationalists try to get around this by dividing the Christian church into two separate groups in order to make their fake doctrine fit. But this is just more ‘dispensationalist nonsense without any biblical support, whatsoever.

          Ron says:

          “The church is not going through what most people refer to as the tribulation, that 7-year period that represents the 70th week of Daniel“

          This is more nonsense from the ‘dispensationalist’ textbook which has no mention in the bible.

          Daniel’s seventieth week has already passed. It happened at the time of Christ’s earthly ministry.

          Dispensationalism is a dead duck. It cannot stand up to fair biblical scrutiny.

          Hey Ron, have you any more ‘dispensationalist’ nonsense that needs to be exposed. Bring it on !!

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    3. On the other hand, if you are not absolutely sure of something you say, then why say it? And why should anyone else believe what you say if you don’t believe it yourself? That’s what the testimony of Jesus is all about. If a person hasn’t experienced the salvation that God has provided, then how can he truthfully and assuredly testify to anyone else what he claims he has experienced?

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       1. On the other hand, if you are absolutely sure of something that is based on a wrong doctrine are you not in a worse place than the guy who admits he is unsure?

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18. Anyone who has studied the Word of God and has even a modicum of spiritual discernment understands that we are incrementally marching inexorably towards the Mark of the Beast system prophesied in Revelation chapter 13. It is crystal clear for those with eyes to see.  This article is simply documentation of yet another incremental step closer.  Imho, a digital ID has always been and continues to be the lynchpin in such a system.  Once you marry a global digital ID to a digital currency, it is pretty much game over.  I don’t know with certainty what the final version that ultimately becomes the Mark of the Beast will look like, but I do not for sure from a straightforward reading of the Bible it will be something that goes on someone’s right hand or your forehead.  Not Sunday worship.  Not a C19 “vaccination”.  Sorry, but that kind of thinking is just unbiblical.  I also know with confidence from the Word of God that the Church will be safely tucked away at the Father’s house before the Mark of the Beast is rolled out.  It is the time of Jacob’s trouble, not the Church’s.  It is the 70^th week for Daniel’s people, the unsaved Jews, and Daniel’s holy city, Jerusalem.  Nothing to do with the Church. Furthermore, a genuine born again, Holy Spirit regenerated Christian can never take the Mark. They would theoretically lose their salvation by doing so, something that is a scriptural impossibility.  One cannot be unborn again, unadopted by the Father, unregenerated in our spirit, unsealed from the day of redemption, and ultimately oxymoronically lose eternal life.  The 70^th week of Daniel itself testifies of a pre-trib rapture. The 24 elders in the throne room of Rev 5 testify of a pre-trib rapture, especially with the words being sung that could only be sung by the Church in heaven before the first seal is ever opened.  A proper interpretation of 2 Thes 2 testifies of the pre-trib rapture (not the nonsense that John Rich shared on Tucker Carlson).  The clear promise of the Church being spared God’s wrath testifies of the pre-trib rapture. Rev 3:10 testifies of a pre-trib rapture. The ancient Jewish wedding tradition testifies of the pre-trib rapture, with a shabua (period of 7, as in the seven years of Daniel’s 70^th week ) at the Father’s house.  The very structure of the Book of Revelation, including the use of and then sudden absence of the word Church (ekklesia in Greek) in the Book of Revelation testifies of the pre-trib rapture.  Yep, the Mark of the Beast is clearly on the horizon.  However, for those born again of God’s Spirit, with our names written in the Lamb’s Book of Life, we shall not fear. He will be returning to rapture us to the Father’s house before the Mark is ever implemented.  Thank You, Lord, for your grace, lovingkindness, and mercy to spare us from Your wrath.  And everyone is invited! Hallelujah and Maranatha!!!  Cannot wait to be with You, Lord!!! Come quickly, Lord Jesus.

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    1. The Rapture was unknown in the Church before the 19th century.

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       1. It is easier to fool people

          than to convince them they have been fooled.

          Mark Twain

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       2. That is so untrue! Jesus said He would keep his faithful FROM the trouble:

          ¹⁰ Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. Revelation 3:10 KJV

          Paul taught the rapture ( “catching away” in English), the early church fathers taught the rapture centuries before John Nelson Darby.

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       3. Hello Bill there will be a rapture and it will happen at the coming of Christ, after the ‘great tribulation’

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       4. @Allison

          Here’s an answer I’ve already given to somebody else:

          Revelation 3:10 makes no mention of a pretribulation rapture.

          The ‘dispensationalists’ have hijacked that verse and twisted it’s meaning.

          The word ‘keep’ in Revelation 3:10 does not mean to remove . The word ‘keep’ means to take care of or to guard.

          Here is an analysis of the Greek word used in Revelation 3:10

          “τηρέω tereo {tay-reh’-o}

          1) to attend to carefully, take care of 1a) to guard 1b) metaph. to keep, one in the state in which he is 1c) to observe 1d) to reserve: to undergo something”

          Christ gives an example of this when He was about to leave this world. He prays that the Father will ‘keep’ his disciples as they are left to continue in this world.

          — “I am no longer in the world; and [yet] they themselves are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep them in Your name, [the name] which You have given Me, that they may be one even as We [are].

          The word ‘keep’ ( τηρέω) is used in the original text for this verse. This is the same word used in Revelation 3;10

          But will you accept this truth? That is the question!

          So, Alison, I hope that this will bring to your understanding of Revelation 3:10.

          With regard to the rapture:

          Paul clearly said that the church would be raptured but he did not teach a pretribulation rapture. He said that the rapture would happen at the coming of the Lord (1st Thessalonians 4) . This is a reference to Christ’s teaching when He answered the question about what would be the sign of his coming.

          In his second letter to the Thessalonians, Paul refutes the notion of a pretribulation rapture, which had been circulating in the Thessalonian church.

          Paul begins his letter by describing the coming of Christ and in chapter 2, he says that this is when the rapture will happen. Paul points out that Christ’s coming and the rapture wont happen until AFTER the man of sin is revealed, sitting in the temple and claiming to be God.

          The rapture will not happen at any moment. It will happen at Christ’s coming which will be preceded by certain events as described by Christ and by Paul. We don’t know the day or the hour. But those who stick to the bible will be able to identify the season by recognising the events which lead up to Christ’s coming and will know when it is imminent.

          The current pretribulation rapture doctrine is an elaborate hoax.

          Darby and Schofield have taken a notion which Paul has refuted and have used it to cause huge confusion in the church.

          I believe that the false doctrine of ‘dispensationalism’ , including the fake ‘pretribulation rapture’, has greatly contributed to the apostasy of the church which will get worse as we approach the time of the revealing of the man of sin, sitting in the temple and claiming to be God.

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       5. That premise is so ridiculously absurd. Do your homework. If you want to reject the sound doctrine of a pre 70th week rapture, knock yourself out. But don’t do it based on unfounded, ridiculous arguments. If you study the church fathers and what they believed, you will know how unfounded your premise really is. Can we at least have some intellectual integrity in this “debate”?

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       6. @Ron You say:

          “I also know with confidence from the Word of God that the Church will be safely tucked away at the Father’s house before the Mark of the Beast is rolled out.  It is the time of Jacob’s trouble, not the Church’s.  It is the 70^th week for Daniel’s people, the unsaved”

          No you don’t !!

          You talk absolute nonsense. Your comment is fraught with ‘dispensational’ lies. You do not understand the bible. Instead you quote the jaded, false, ‘dispensational’ narrative.

          Daniel’s seventieth week has already passed. It occurred at the time of Christ’s earthly ministry. Anybody with basic maths can see this.

          The ‘dispensationalists’ dreamt up the notion of ‘the great parenthesis’ in order to fudge God’s timeline.
          But the truth is that the seventieth week aligns with Christ’s earthly ministry,

          God never mentioned stopping the prophetic timeline. But that wont stop you from twisting the scriptures in an attempt to make your false notion fit.

          Your arrogance is matched only by your ignorance.

          You say that Rev 3:10 testifies of a pre-trib rapture. 

          This is absolute nonsense. Rev 3:10 makes no mention of a pretribulation rapture.

          I’ve already explained Revelation 3:10 to Alison. I suggest that you read it.

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       7. Bill, if these scriptural illiterates want to stay around for the tribulation instead of going with Jesus in the rapture, I say let em stay. If they want to see their family starving and slaughtered by the AntiChrist after hunting them down for years, assuming some other global kill off doesn’t get them first, I say let it happen. Most of them are arguing against the rapture for the pure and simple reason that they just don’t know Jesus and thus they don’t believe His promises. Some are arguing against the rapture because they have been influenced by those who don’t know Jesus. And some are arguing against the rapture because they are just plain ignorant of the scriptures. Either way, I say let em stay for it. Once they’ve been warned and mocked the messenger, let God deal with them. Jesus is coming for a bride that is spiritually ready with oil in the lamp and wicks trimmed, listening for the shout and the trumpet. The rest will remain asleep until the morning the Antichrist wakes em up with a neck chopping device.

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       8. And whose fault was that? Not The Word’s (Jesus’s), not ours, so whose? Their own! Perhaps it wasn’t commonly known, but there had to be lovers of the Word who dug, way back when. If anyone knew Greek and the word “harpazo” it would have been clear that we will be “caught up” or “snatched away.” Which word you think best defines “Rapture” isn’t important. God’s truth of the concept is what matters.

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       9. Nobody’s arguing about the harpazo, just the timing of it. And people believe what they want U.K. believe. This argument, over the timing of the rapture, has been raging for decades, including here on my website. I seriously doubt that one person’s mind has been changed based on all the words cast back and forth. Why? Because people believe what they want to believe. Interestingly, both sides attribute their beliefs to the Bible and the words of Jesus, yet only one truth came out of the mouth of Jesus Christ. So one side is right and one is wrong. I will say this: if the post-tribbers are wrong they have nothing to lose because one’s beliefs about the timing of the Lord’s return is not a matter of salvation. If the pre-tribbers are wrong, it’s not too hard to imagine some of them losing their faith or being deceived by the antichrist and the insidious “mark.” Again, I’m not taking sides, the pre-tribbers could end up being right. But I fear for them if they are wrong.

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       10. “the Lord’s return is not a matter of salvation.”

           Hello Leo , this is a type of statement which is often used by the pretribbers to pacify and to silence Christians who speak out against the pretrib lies.

           It’s true that we don’t need full knowledge on this subject in order to be saved. But that doesn’t mean that it’s not important or that it’s ok for the church to embrace both arguments.

           So, why is this subject so important?

           Because Christ has attached great importance to the timing and nature of His coming and the rapture, lest we be deceived.

           Paul warns against believing in a pretribulation rapture. It is in this context that Paul warns the Thessalonians of what will happen to those who do not have a love for God’s truth.

           The pretrib notion provides a cloak for the ‘man of sin’, by persuading the church that they will not be here when he is revealed, sitting in the temple and claiming to be God.

           When the ‘man of sin’ is revealed the apostate church will accept him in the belief that because the rapture hasn’t happened yet, then this could not be the man of sin.

           You might think that they will regognise him when the time comes. But Paul says that God will send a strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

           “11nd for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

           12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”

           This is a rebuke and warning from Paul after he has had to refute the false notion of a pretribulation rapture which was being circulated in the Thessalonian church.

           The Thessalonians had fallen for this lie despite having previously received Paul’s teaching on Christ’s coming and the rapture.

           Paul goes on to encourage the Thessalonians to hold on to what they had been taught.

           15Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

           The pretribbers seem to be under a demonic spell. When an error such as their ridiculous interpretation of Rev. 3:10, is exposed, what do they do?

           Instead of acknowledging their error, they go quiet and then, in some cases they will post a separate comment, where they try pushing a misinterpretation of some other bible verse.

           Methinks they are wilfully blind.

           So, should we sit on the fence and just say, well they are entitled to their point of view, who am I to oppose them?

           No! certainly not!

           We should contend for the faith.

           We should uphold God’s truth and be true witnesses for God and we should expose the lies of Satan by using the light of God’s word.

           The devil fears a true testimony because it is a serious obstacle in his way.

           I believe that the apostasy of the church must happen in order for the man of sin to be revealed in his time.

           And the apostasy is well under way, folks! Thanks to the likes of Darby and Schofield and to those who embrace false doctrine such as ‘dispensationalism and the fake pretribulation rapture. And it’s thanks, also, to those who know the truth but choose to stay silent.

           A true Christian should bear a true testimony which is evidence of a genuine salvation and is an important tool to defeat Satan.

           “And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.”

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       11. I appreciate your knowledge on this topic Anthony, but unfortunately it seems to just spur more back and forth and the other side just offers up the same tired extra-biblical arguments. I’ve never seen one of them see the light and change their view. Have you? In fact they just seem to dig in their heels and double down. Then I grow weary of seeing the endless back and forth on my site. I’m sure you can understand how frustrating it would be from my vantage point when I don’t even address let alone focus on this issue in my writings!

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       12. Ok Leo I understand .

           It always seems to be the pretribbers who introduce their narrative into the conversation. I might finish with one last reply to Jay, if that’s ok. and then I’ll leave it at that.

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       13. Bolony to the 19th century comment. It was none other than the Apostle Paul himself who described the rapture in detail in 1 Thessalonians chapter 4. That was indeed first century. Darby and Calvin were Johnny come lately to the rapture that Paul preached.

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       14. Totally false. In II Thessalonians 2:1-4 Paul clearly stated that it would only be after that man of sin is revealed that he would come for His bride.

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       15. 1 Thessalonians 4 is not false and it is not in disagreement with II Thessalonians chapter 2 either. Paul was writing to believers who had been told that they missed the rapture, which is also known as “The Day of Christ.” He told the Church at Thessalonica not to be deceived or soon shaken by those who said that the rapture has already happened. And yes, they had the word “rapture” in another language. Rapture is our English word for it. Falling away has been interpreted by some to mean apostasy and by others as the taking away of the saints, but not necessarily in the rapture, although some have characterized it as such. Paul said that the spirit of Antichrist was already at work, even in his day. We know that at some point, there will be a man who is openly revealed as “the real 666 man of sin himself”. That man of sin, the Antichrist will in fact proclaim himself to be God and he will in fact sit in the temple as the verses you quote describe. But “The Mystery of Iniquity man” may not necessarily be revealed to everyone at exactly the same time and very likely, true believers in Jesus Christ will recognize him for what he is, long before the Jews and rest of the world recognize and understand what he is at the 3 and 1/2 year midpoint of the tribulation.

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       16. @ Jay August 23, 2024 at 12:48 pm

           Hello Jay, you have misunderstood what I’m saying.

           Of course there will be a rapture. But there will NOT be a pretribulation rapture as claimed by the heretics , Darby and Schofield.

           The rapture will happen at the coming of Christ and this is what Paul is referring to in 1st Thessalonians 4
           Paul says that the rapture will happen at the coming of Christ , see verse 15.
           Question:
           Where in first Thessalonians 4 did Paul say that the rapture would happen before the great tribulation ?
           Please answer this question.

           If you can’t answer the question, then be quiet

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       17. @Jay:August 23, 2024 at 1:46 pm1

           “Paul was writing to believers who had been told that they missed the rapture,“

           No he was not!
           Paul was writing to the Thessalonians who had been misled into believing that the coming of Christ and the rapture was imminent.
           Paul says:
           “1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
           2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.”

           Paul uses the present tense ‘is’ . So, he is not referring to something which may have have happened in the past.

           The Thessalonians already knew that the rapture would happen at Christ’s coming. Paul had made this clear in his first letter when he said:

           15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

           16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

           17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

           18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

           The day of Christ and the coming of Christ are the same event and it is at this time that Christ will send his angels to rapture both the dead in Christ and also the Christians who are still alive at Christ’s coming.

           If you can be bothered to read the verses above you will see that the resurrection must happen first at Christ’s coming, then the living saints will be joined with them and raptured to be with Christ in the air.

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    2. Christ’s ministry happened in the 70th week of Daniel’s prophecy.

       There will NOT be a pretribulation rapture. The pretribulation rapture is a hoax!

       You need to put away the fiction and stick to what the bible actually says.

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       1. Christ would not tell Jacob His name in Genesis 32:29. In Judges 13:17-18 He told Manoah His name was secret. At the very end of the Book in Revelation 19:12, at Armageddon, He still has this unknown name. It is the name of God, His new name, that He will write upon us after He returns (Revelation 3:12). Which means this name cannot be found in the Bible.

          If Christ returned 1,954 years ago in 70AD, then surely by now at least 1 preterist should be able to tell us what this new name is….but none can. And if He returned 1,954 years ago in 70AD surely at least 1 preterist would call Him by this new name….but they do not.When a bride (church) takes her husband’s (Christ) name it is not a forgettable moment, so why can’t the 70 ADeists tell us this name?

          In Zephaniah 3:8-9 we read that at His coming we will serve Him with 1 consent & 1 pure language. If He came back in 70 AD, why have we had multiple consents (denominations) & multiple languages (doctrines) ever since 70AD?

          At Christ’s return the 7th trumpet sounds & “there should be time no longer”….yet here we are 1,954 years later & preterists still use schedules, calendars, & alarm clocks.

          1 Corinthians 11:26 says that we take communion until He comes again. So if He came back in 70AD why do preterists still take communion today?

          Christ said the tribulation would be like no other time in history. More Jews were killed in WW2 than during the 70AD siege of Jerusalem.

          Revelation 18:21 says that harlot city will be thrown down & never found again….but Jerusalem stands today. And archaeologists have been unearthing things related to the 2nd temple. Did the Bible lie or are preterists deceived?

          Jesus told Peter that we must forgive our brother until 70×7. This wasn’t random numbers. God does not speak flippantly. These numbers were a direct reference to the 70 weeks prophecy. After 70 weeks we get new sinless perfect bodies at the resurrection/rapture. After that we won’t need to forgive or be forgiven by our brother because we will be sinless. Are we sinless now? No. Are we still required to forgive our brother today? You better believe it. That means that 70×7 has not happened yet. It didn’t happen at the cross & it did not happen at 70AD.

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       2. Apparently, I was not clear with my question, but I’m with you all the way. I think the problem is American Christianity has never suffered true persecution for their faith. I wonder if any of these pre-tribbers would be open to going to countries around the world, where Believers are being martyred for their faith, and tell them about the Rapture? What kind of reaction do they think they would get? Christianity in America has no price attached to it.

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       3. unibokk,

          I agree with your view on the Rapture, but completely disagree with your view on the war in the Middle East. Israel when they strike, do everything they can to keep civilian deaths to a minimum, whereas Hamas launches rockets indiscriminately into neighborhoods, schools, hospitals, etc.. Hamas continues to do that on a daily basis, and you forget that it was Hamas who attacked and killed innocent people first. It’s also a well known fact that Hamas uses innocent people as shields. This attack by Hamas was completely unprovoked, but everyone forgets that. What would you do if someone in a neighboring county or state started dropping rockets into your neighborhood? How would you react if your spouse or loved ones were killed during such an attack?

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       4. Bill says “Israel when they strike, do everything they can to keep civilian deaths to a minimum, “

          That would explain why 40,000 Palestinians have been killed, mostly women and children, not to mention the100,000+ sick and wounded.

          Thanks for explaining that to me. I realise now that dropping 20,000 bombs was only meant to kill Hamas soldiers.

          I realise now that the Israelis mean well when they prevent food and medical supplies from entering Gaza and why most peoples homes are now inhabitable or completely destroyed.

          Thanks to your greater knowledge I now realise that the carnage being committed in Gaza has nothing to do with the Likud party’s stated aim which is to turn Israel into a totally Jewish State.

          Christian Zionists look at the Zionist State of Israel through ‘rose tinted’ glasses and they applaud Israel’s efforts whilst ignoring the fact that they are preparing to host the ‘man of sin’ with the help of the apostate ‘christian’ church.

          I hope my sarcasm will help open your eyes to what’s really going on in Gaza, not to mention the West Bank where over 600 Palestinians have died since Oct 7 mostly due to attacks by Israeli settlers.

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       5. 2 Thessalonians 2

          1Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to Him, we ask you, brothers, 2not to be easily disconcerted or alarmed by any spirit or message or letter seeming to be from us, alleging that the Day of the Lord has already come. 3Let no one deceive you in any way, for it will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness—the son of destruction—is revealed.

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    3. There were 24 courses of priests in the OT. The things on earth were patterned after the heavenly. Which means that those 24 elders didn’t just show up in Revelation 5 at a pre trib rapture.

       Also, those elders are holding the prayers of all saints when they fall down before the Lamb in chapter 5. But by chapter 8 “another angel” (Isaiah 63:9) is offering up those prayers (acting as a mediator…1 Timothy 2:5). Which points to the elders being mediators prior to the cross. Which supports the idea that the elders are in fact the heavenly reality of the 24 course OT priesthood on earth.

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    4. Ruth (gentile bride) kept fast by Boaz’s (Boaz, type of Christ) maidens (Matthew 25) and waited with Naomi (Jew) until both, the barley & the wheat harvests were over. And Ruth & Boaz did not elope in the middle of the night.

       In Judges 9, the people of Thebez (shining city》Matthew 5) had their city conquered by Abimelech (type of beast) and they had to run to the strong tower (Proverbs 18:10). They did not go UP (rapture) in the strong tower until Abimelech (beast) came to wage war (Armageddon) against it.

       Rahab & her gentile household were not rescued out of Jericho 7 years or 7 days before the battle came. They were rescued out only AFTER the 7th trumpet blasts and on the same day Jericho fell.

       Gideon & his 300 who lapped water (Living) like dogs (gentiles) did not flee earth. They surrounded the enemy camp and blowed trumpets (Rev 8-11), broke pitchers (Rev 16) and let their lamps shine (Matthew 25) as God discomfitted the enemy.

       Noah didn’t enter the ark until Genesis 7:7. Genesis = 7 letters. So Noah entered the ark at 777. Seals/trumpets/vials.

       In Daniel 10, Daniel fasted & was in mourning 3 full weeks & then Christ shows up. 3 weeks = 21 days or 7 + 7 + 7 days. Seals/trumpets/vials.

       Anna didn’t go into the temple to serve God day & night (cross reference with Revelation 3:12) until she was 77 + 7 (84 years old). 777; seals/trumpets/vials.

       New Jerusalem isn’t described in detail until it’s completion in Revelation 21; 777; seals/trumpets/vials.

       The resurrection is mentioned in 1 Corinthians 15:21. 21; 777. Seals/trumpets/vials.

       In Mark 5:21 (777) much people are gathered unto Jesus. In Mark 7:14 (7+14=21=777) He calls all the people unto Him. In Mark 10:7 a man (Christ) leaves His Father & Mother (Galatians 4:26) to cleave to His bride. Mark is 4 letters. 4 + 10 (chapter) + 7 (verse) = 21 = 777. Seals/trumpets/vials. 10 × 7 = 70…after the 70th week He cleaves to His bride.

       In Luke 3:21 (777) all the people were baptized and heaven was opened.

       In Luke 7:14 (7+14=21=777) He tells the dead to arise.

       In Matthew (7 letters) 25 (2+5=7) verse 7 the virgins arise. 777. Seals/trumpets/vials.

       1 Thessalonians 4:17; 4+17=21=777. Caught up; seals/trumpets/vials.

       Daniel (6 letters) chapter 12 verse 3. 6+12+3=21=777. The verse speaks of the saints at the resurrection.

       Philippians 3:21(777). Our bodies will be changed.

       2 Timothy 4:8…2 + 7 letters + 4 + 8 = 21 = 777. The day of His appearing.

       Matthew (7 letters) chapter 7 verse 7…knock & it shall be opened to you; cross reference Revelation 3:7 (3×7=21=777). He opens & no man shuts. The very next verse (Revelation 3:8) says the door is opened. Revelation = 10 letters + 3 chapter + 8 verse = 21 = 777. Seals/trumpets/vials.

       Isaiah 14:7(21=777) whole earth is at rest. Hosea 14:7(21=777): shall return, shall revive. Joel 2:15; blow the trumpet. Joel 4 letters plus 2 plus 15 = 21 = 777. Joel 3:14; multitudes in the valley of decision. Joel 4 letters plus 3 plus 14 = 21 = 777. Seals/trumpets/vials. Amos 4:12-13. Verse 12, prepare to meet God. Verse 13, God is on earth. Amos 4 letters + 4 + verse 13 = 21 = 777. Seals/trumpets/vials.

       Obadiah 1:21(777). The Saviours (Trinity proof Text) have come to judge. Micah 7:9. 5 letters + 7 + 9 = 21 = 777. He brings us to the light and we shall behold Him. Nahum 1:15…5 letters + 1 + 15 = 21 = 777. His feet are on the mountains.Zechariah 1:11. 9 letters + 1 + 11 = 21 = 777; earth at rest and the pre incarnate Christ (Angel of the Lord) is among the myrtle trees.

       This isn’t all of them btw. This pattern is all throughout Scripture in relation to 777 & His return. The pre tribulation rapture heresy already could not overcome straight forward Scriptural scrutiny. But when you start testing it by Bible numerical code, it fails that test too. Many pre tribbers will fall away & take the mark when their early escape is not realized. The evil servant in Matthew 24:48-51 is a prime example. He expected an early arrival of the Lord and when it does not happen he turns on his fellow servants and beats them & eats & drinks with the drunken. If he is eating at that point in history, he took the mark.

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       1. Jerry—I appreciate your hard efforts to decode the Bible and some of it is interesting, but I’m afraid your attempts at “gematria” (Jewish numerology) doesn’t work. You are using the English language Biblical names to count the letters, but the OT was originally written in Hebrew and Aramaic. NT was originally written in koine Greek. What if you had a German Bible, a Chinese or a Russian one? How would your coding scheme work with that? Answer: it wouldn’t, no more than it does with English. For instance, you say Genesis is 7 letters, which it is in English. But in Hebrew, it is 6. You say Daniel is 6 letters (in English), but it’s 5 in Hebrew. You say Matthew is 7 letters (in English), but it’s 8 in Greek. And so on. You should at least use those original languages to devise your numerology coding scheme, especially the Hebrew as those letters also function as numbers. In that language “gematria” has some significance, especially in the sentence construction (in Hebrew) of Genesis.

          As for the chapters and verses you quote that emphasize “seven”, you should know that the entire Bible was NOT divided into chapters and verses until the 12 century AD, and that the Jewish OT numbers them differently from the Greek Septuagint and other Bibles. The chapter and verse divisions are entirely arbitrary and subjected to variation among Bible versions through the centuries. So your “gematria” doesn’t work as you applied it on the wrong premises. It would be best to approach the problem you are trying to solve some other way than numerically.

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       2. @kkayjae:

          August 22, 2024 at 11:15 am

          Wow! Kayjae, that comment was so well crafted.

          Well said indeed.

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19. Yes, you are describing the BEAST system where no man can BUY or SELL lest he has his mark.

    But what is this mark? Some say Sunday worship and on your knees.

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20. One of several reasons i do not have a smart phone.

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21. Even

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    1. Guess i have to rewrite this……”Even though this is not the beast system the question remains can this somehow be absorbed into the beast system?”

       NOTUS said that Gov and Private entities are both involved in the ID implementation. And that is causing a delay in the Order being signed. Well of course the private folks will sell our data to the Gov., so dont be fooled thinking you can evade the Gov. approach. The pay out is probably being negotiated right now.

       Again looks like Agenda 30/Great Reset is right on track. And if Biden can put this thru before January you can bet Harris would implement it and enforce within a year.

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22. Facial recognition, imprinted card numbers in the palm of the hand or on the forehead…all mark of the beast. This system is going to unfold no matter who is in the position of POTUS. That position is still just a mouthpiece for the beasts behind the scenes trying to destroy the foundation of the USA and to enhance the advancement of a one world government. Of course, it will be the billionaires buying souls as they have been doing right along.

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    1. It’s NOT just a number you take, but the number of HIS NAME. And that don’t mean 666. His name is the LEGAL NAME, in all caps, which is your name in death, and his number is the number of that name, the SSN that has been issued to it.

       You already have the mark spoken of. They are just taking it to the next stage.

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       1. I am curious to know how one functions without a SSN. Also the all caps… a reference to being tied to / a slave to the US corporation, I’m guessing. This is all new info in the last year or two to me but I would like to study it more. Do you have some recommended resources or links?

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23. will this be the mark of the beast?

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    1. At the very least, it’s a forerunner. When this same technology moves from the phone to the body, I personally believe that is the mark of the beast. And, sadly, if you would accept it on your phone you would more than likely accept it on your physical body. People already wear connected devices like Apple Watches on their bodies so it’s not that big of a leap to embed a chip that identifies them by their eye or palm scan.

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24. Look who’s behind the push maybe? It’s your ‘Chosen Ones’…Israel. Look at the high tech surveillance put upon the Palestinians!! It’s RIGHT THERE. And Israel sells this tech out to other countries!! You need to think about it…unless you already know? Israel a ‘democratic’ state is now leading the way with the annihilation of a sect of people…brown ppl. Israel is NOT the Chosen One…sorry but they aren’t. You think Jesus would approve of the slaughtering taking place? The gang sodomy rapes of Palestinian detainees as Sde camp where one recent man died as a result of the f’d up torture by IDF soldiers/police which was done behind their shields AND to which Israeli’s then protested after these sick f’ks got arrested but to protest for their RIGHT to rape Palestinians???

    That’s FUCKED UP to say you have that right. The fact that Israel THINKS they are the Chosen Ones is wherein their sickness lies because they THINK they can DO ANYTHING they want and get a free pass. And if anyone SPEAKS against their atrocities GOD FORBID that and you will be called anti semite!!!

    That is losing it’s grip and people now SEE the lies and that Israel is the true TERRORIST state and people. I’ve seen PLENTY of on the ground footage showing the truth about the Palestinian people and it’s NOTHING to what they are being portrayed as by BOUGHT OUT MEDIA and by PAID OFF politicians by AIPAC. WE ALL SEE IT CLEAR AS DAY

    And alot of us know it’s Zionists that are behind most of the things we are seeing transpire today. We know what you think of all the ‘Goyim’ and that you have no problem killing a ‘Goy’ because again…you can do no wrong because you are the CHOSEN ONES.

    NO YOU ARE NOT. True Jewish people know this too and that the state of Israel isn’t supposed to exist and that Israel isn’t a physical PLACE – it’s simply the belief in Jesus Christ as ‘the way’

    Zionists have propagandized it all since WAY back to suit your narrative so you can STEAL land and homes away from the true Israelites. They’re the ones being GENOCIDED as we speak. And you all know it…and the world now knows it.

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    1. it’s only called “Genocide” when the people being killed are innocent. That doesn’t apply to Palestinian terrorists. Invoking the name of God to give your biased hatred for Jews in one sentence and then dropping the “F” word in the next, quickly exposes you as a fake.

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       1. Who made you judge and jury?? You know for sure who’s innocent or who’s not, because if one is guilty, ALL are guilty? Do you want to be the executioner, too? Go there then. BTW it’s open season on Palestinian children in particular, as at least one foreign medical team working there discovered with all the expert head shots and heart shots. Make sure those toddlers never grow up as those little bastards were guilty little terrorists.

          The IDF is supposed to be fighting Hamas, not exterminating EVERY ordinary Palestinian they can find, regardless of age or gender or whether they ever were “terrorists”. This is a genocide on your dime and mine. Really horrible that we’re made complicit. Makes us guilty, too.

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       2. Hello Jay

          “Genocide is an internationally recognized crime where acts are committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group.”

          So, what’s going on in Gaza is GENOCIDE according to this definition.

          Terrorism, can be defined as “the calculated use of violence to create a general climate of fear in a population and thereby to bring about a particular political objective.”

          The actions of Zionist Israel are both genocide and terrorism against the Palestinian people. Most of the dead and injured are women and children. The Zionist Israeli government wants to create a totally Jewish State.

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       3. So by your definition of terrorist, if someone moves onto your property or into your house and starts shooting at your family, hiding behind your own children when you retaliate and using your kitchen knife to stab your wife, they are not a terrorist. And you, on the other hand, if you attempt to remove them with deadly force, you are committing genocide. Ok, I understand where you are coming from now. You should prepare for that very scenario right here in America with all of the Palestinians coming across the border and don’t complain when they accuse you of attempting to create an American homeland.

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       4. There is terrorism on both sides. But history shows that the Israelis have inflicted the greater terror. For decades the Israelis have been displacing the Palestinians from their farmlands and have incarcerated them in an open prison in Gaza. Land grab is the Israeli’s ‘modes operandum’

          I suggest that you put aside the bias and read up on the brutality which Israelis have been carrying out in Palestine over the past decades.

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    2. We clearly have not yet seen the manifestation of the strong delusion in 2 Thessalonians 2 that takes place during Daniel’s 70th week (aka the 7-year tribulation period). Your post, however, is Exhibit A that the principle is already at work around us. When people reject truth long enough and hard enough, there comes a point when God will sometimes allow them to be given over to a delusional mind that becomes incapable of accurately discerning good from evil. It really is remarkable to see someone draw the conclusions you have drawn and how distant those conclusions are from the reality of truth.

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    3. I’ll go on a limb and say that if a lineup were assembled of ten Jews and ten Palestinians in identical clothing and grooming, you would not be able to tell the difference. But, please; go on with your “brown people” concern trolling, ignoring that Jews and Arabs are not far apart on that score.

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25. Watching the elite techno agenda unfold at an alarming pace, I have one question: if the Bible teaches that the Mark is mandatory 3.5 years into the trib, and knowing how badly they want such control now, how close are we?

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    1. Mare, if you ask ten different Christians that question you will get close to ten different answers. We have to live like it’s imminent.

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       1. Indeed we do have to live as if The Lords return is at the door. He is returning for a people who are dressed and ready, and watching expectantly for Him in the rapture. Remember Revelation 3:10 where only one of the 7 Churches of Asia Minor is promised that they will be spared from the Tribulation that will come upon the whole world. The other 6 have no such promise.

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       2. Absolutely! My point exactly. The rapture must be so near. 😊

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       3. @Kkjae

          Well said. The Israeli leadership are using Hamas as an excuse as they seek to justify their continued atrocities against innocent civilians.

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       4. @Jay.

          Jay you have been blinded by the ‘dispensationalist’ lie.

          Revelation 3:10 makes no mention of a pretribulation rapture.

          The ‘dispensationalists’ have hijacked that verse and twisted it’s meaning.

          The word ‘keep’ in Revelation 3:10 does not mean to remove . The word ‘keep’ means to take care of or to guard.

          Here is an analysis of the Greek word used in Revelation 3:10

          “τηρέω tereo {tay-reh’-o}

          1) to attend to carefully, take care of 1a) to guard 1b) metaph. to keep, one in the state in which he is 1c) to observe 1d) to reserve: to undergo something”

          Christ gives an example of this when He was about to leave this world. He prays that the Father will ‘keep’ his disciples as they are left to continue in this world.

          — “I am no longer in the world; and [yet] they themselves are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep them in Your name, [the name] which You have given Me, that they may be one even as We [are].

          The word ‘keep’ ( τηρέω) is used in the original text for this verse. This is the same word used in Revelation 3;10

          But will you accept this truth? That is the question!

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26. Considering how infatuated a lot of Conservatives are with Elon Musk he will get a lot of them onboard with something connected to X/Twitter.

    If Trump gets put in the WH again it will pacify the populists. keeping them agreeable as the beast system unfolds under his watch with no fanfare.

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    1. I agree Rachel. You are spot on target with this comment!

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    2. He got us out of the WHO once and has already said there will be no CBDC under his watch, although when it comes to the money system presidents don’t have much say.

       “It is well enough that the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.

       Henry Ford 1922

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